The Rearing Stallion: Illuminati Icon

“Blucifer” Denver International Airport – Luis Jimemez (died 2006)

Luciferian art at the Denver International Airport, which was built by a group calling itself “The New World Airport Commission”  (

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I’m going to start this discussion of the horse with a section from the autobiography of Tony Rodrigues, Ceres Colony Cavalier (2021):

There were huge windows and tiled floors similar to what you’d expect in a 1950s station.  The first moment through the great revolving doors from the hangar to the trade area gave a good hit of clean, crisp, fresh oxygen—and it was a total rush, a buzz, actually. It was awesome.  I remember those walks with my colleagues fondly.

Just before my twenty-year time was up, the stone pillars that we had walked by for months came under construction.  I was told that they had abducted a few of Europe’s finest stone sculptors into a twenty-year program just to have them sculpt a few monuments throughout several colonies in the solar system.  These sculptors would be working on Ceres for years to come.

Rearing stallions on Ceres created by artists abducted from Earth (courtesy of Tony Rodrigues)

Ceres Colony, population of around 260,000, was created by extraterrestrials as a refuge for the top echelon of Germans at the end of WWII.  The transport of people to Ceres was done from a Nazi base in Antartica.

The colony was governed by Nazis, but they were themselves under the rule of the Draco Empire.  The colony’s economy was based on interstellar trade, and it relied on slave labor provided by humans abducted from Earth.

Rearing Stallion 1928

Rearing Stallion 1928 National Gallery of Art, Washington DC (Gift of Mr. and Mrs. Herbert Perls)

The NSA, the Montauk boys, and the Hadron collider

Beginning in 1947 under President Harry Truman, the military and private defense contractors began research into extraterrestrial technologies, with the goal of weaponizing them to enslave the human race.  This was the reason Truman created the CIA, the NSA and Majestic Twelve, all of which which formed a shadow government.

The research was carried out at Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico, Brookhaven National Laboratories in New York, and at private companies such as Douglas Aircraft, Raytheon, and Eaton AIL.  From 1971, privately funded ET research was carried out at Montauk Air Force Base, and this was eventually expanded to 24 other sites.  This research violated human-rights conventions, international weapons conventions and the United States Constitution.  It was called Project Phoenix.

Research at Montauk was mainly concerned with mind-control technologies and time-space-travel, and involved the use of child psychics, computers, electromagnetic energy and ET technology to create a space-time vortex.  They perfected this on August 12, 1983, when Al Bielek and Duncan Cameron arrived at Montauk from the USS Eldridge in 1943—what is now known as the Philadelphia Experiment.

In later interviews, Duncan Cameron and Preston Nichols explained how the scientists at Montauk tested child psychics for Project Phoenix by a remote-viewing exercise.  They would have their young subjects look at the United States in the year 6037 and ask them what they saw.  The scientists had located a world-line in which the human race no longer existed: the scene was a golden statue of a rearing stallion in a desolate city.  If the boy or the young man saw the golden statue, he was put to work visualizing other world lines that favored the plans of the Cabal.  These visualizations, amplified by the amplitron machines at Montauk, allowed the NSA to identify their space-time coordinates.  Repeatedly sending psychics to these world-lines moved our world-line in the direction of the New World Order.

Stewart Swerdlow, another Montauk veteran, told Michael Salla (April 18, 2022) that the purpose of the Hadron collider in Geneva was to collapse the world-lines that gave the Cabal an “advantage” into this reality.

CERN is an interdimensional portal.  We learned at Montauk that there are infinite realities.  Every possibility that you can think of exists.  And how did we learn this?  Because they had attempted to send people back in time to change history, and they found out that you can’t change history.  Whatever is in this timeline, in the so-called past, must remain.  If you alter an event, then it becomes another timeline—parallel to this, but not the same as this.

And so, they realized that in every possibility of existence, you could find something.  So, for example, the Hadron collider in CERN: they know that there are realities where the Nazis maintained control.  There are realities where Atlantis never was destroyed.  There are realities where humans never existed, and so on, and so on.  So what Hadron colliders do is identify alternate realities that enhance and improve the position of the deep state.  And what they are attempting to do is collapse those realities into this one; blend, merge the reality where they have maintained their power.  That’s the idea of the Hadron collider.  And that’s why it’s been sabotaged several times by certain groups who are against that agenda. (1 hr. 9 minutes

With this in mind, here is Duncan Cameron talking about the golden stallion statue that the NSA scientists used to test young psychics.

One of the unusual characteristics in this jumping in time, and seeing where the particular special-interest groups—  And that’s basically what Montauk was about: very specialized interest-groups within the government and outside, finding a way to accentuate and to gear and maneuver their own ‘sensitives’ for whatever their agenda is.  There was a test at Montauk for those people who could sense, in this time framework in which we’re all moving along, the year 6037.

It sounds kind of kooky and bizarre and unusual, but we all have a connection to our evolution.  And that’s supposedly one of the most evolved states of the human spirit in the time frame that we’re moving along.  Everyone has a connection to it, and [if] there is enough kind of horsepower, or a process to move it in that area, then [it] could be, on paper, connected.  And it probably was a bit of a jolt and such, but they had these connections, and part of the work duties of some of these vounteers was to go in and sense this horse on a pedestal, in this kind of surrealistic city.

And some of the people had the creativity and the ability to actually ride the horse; get on this horse and then follow and see where it ended up.  And from reports, it ended up before Christ, millions of years.  And along that pathway, they had a number of what’s called flag-posts, which for some reason has been connected with me.  I don’t quite know why, but there is my essence in connection with these flag-posts.

Question:  Markers?

Duncan:  Markers—markers in time; same thing.  And we’re speculating: we certainly don’t know, ‘cause we’re still trying to grab memories and see what comes up.  And by all means, Al Bielek, my half-brother, is part of this investigation, trying to put it all together as to what these references in time mean.  And the logical aspect is that the control-group would like to use these forms for their agenda.  It’s a logical format.  So, that was one of the peculiar aspects of it.

Duncan:  Some of the other unfortunate considerations were the use of boys in the project.

Question:  What age?

Duncan:  It goes back to five and six at the earliest, maybe seven, eight, through pubescent into seventeen and eighteen. And they had some twenty-year-olds at the time. (54 minutes )

Preston Nichols, an assistant director of Montauk, described the same thing in his book:

A later investigation showed that Montauk had a neo-Nazi connection and that the Nazis were still on the Aryan kick.  We don’t know where the kids went, what they were educated in or programmed for.  Whether they came back or not is still a mystery.  What information is available is that they sent every raw recruit into the future to 6037 AD, always to the same point, to what appeared to be a dead city in ruins.

Everything was stationary, not unlike a dream-like state.  There were no signs of life. In the center of the city was a square with a gold horse on a pedestal.  There were inscriptions on that pedestal and recruits were sent there to read what they said.  Each recruit would interpret and report.

The recruits were always asked if they saw anybody in the city.  Each individual would interpret what he observed and report.  We know a lot of people were shoved somewhere into the Future — maybe 200 or 300 years ahead.  Estimates range from 3,000 to 10,000 people that were eventually abandoned.  We have no idea for what purpose.

I have already said that I don’t know exactly what they did with time.  I wasn’t there, but I do know they did a lot with World War I and World War II.  They monitored those times and took pictures.  They knew exactly what they were doing.  They could actually make up a secondary vortex to observe what was going on.  We called this a “seeing-eye” function.  The original vortex was such that one could drive a truck through it.  Using phase conjugation through the elaborate computer set-up, past and future history could actually be transmitted through the portal and viewed on television. (pp. 48-49)

Stewart Swerdlow has described what the United States was supposed to look like in the present time.  The country was divided by a 50-mile-wide Mississippi river, or causeway, into western and eastern regions.  Most of California west of the San Andreas fault was underwater, as well as parts of the East Coast and the states bordering the Gulf of Mexico.

The capital of the western region of the U.S. was supposed to be Denver, Colorado—hence the Luciferian airport—and the capital of the eastern region was to be Atlanta, Georgia, headquarters of CNN and the Centers for Disease Control.  Colorado and Georgia are Democratic Party strongholds, even though the populations are socially conservative—hence the election-rigging.


Illuminati families and the Committee of 300. Note CNN founder Ted Turner and Anthony Fauci.

Deep underground military bases and tunnels

Phil Schneider was a geologist who worked on the government’s underground bases and tunnels. He was tortured and strangled in 1996 for speaking publicly about what was going on.

The first part of this talk is going to concern deep underground military bases and the black budget.  The black budget is a secretive budget that garners 25% of the gross national product of the United States.  The black budget currently consumes $1.25 trillion per [2] years.  At least this amount is used in black programs, like those concerned with deep underground military bases.  Presently, there are 129 deep underground military bases in the United States.

They have been building these 129 bases day and night, unceasingly, since the early 1940’s.  Some of them were built even earlier than that.  These bases are basically large cities underground connected by high-speed magneto-leviton trains that have speeds up to Mach 2.  Several books have been written about this activity; Al Bielek has my only copy of one of them.  Richard Sauder, a Ph.D architect, has risked his life by talking about this.  He worked with a number of government agencies on deep underground military bases.  In around where you live, in Idaho, there are 11 of them.

The average depth of these bases is over a mile, and they again are basically whole cities underground.  They all are between 2.66 and 4.25 cubic miles in size.  They have laser drilling machines that can drill a tunnel seven miles long in one day.  The black projects sidestep the authority of Congress, which as we know is illegal.  Right now, the New World Order is depending on these bases.  If I had known at the time I was working on them that the NWO was involved, I would not have done it. – Phil Schneider, 1995

The United Nations

Pax Draconiana – Guardian for intergalactic peace and security

A guardian for international peace and security sits on the Visitor’s Plaza outside UN Headquarters.  The guardian is a fusion of jaguar and eagle and donated by the Government of Oaxaca, Mexico.  It is created by artists Jacobo and Maria Angeles.

The names of the artists coincide with reports that the Illuminati were planning a false second coming of Christ.  Jacob was a deceiver in the Bible, Mary was the mother of Christ, and angels is a term used in the past for extraterrestrials.  Also, note the resemblance of UN statue to a Chinese dragon, a kind of a god.  This dragon has mammalian ears, representing the hybridization of humans and reptiles:

Phil Schneider, when he worked for NATO, was invited to two meetings of the UN leadership.  They met at a deep underground military base, and the humans were overseen by tall greys (7-feet tall), who sat on a balcony above them and dictated policy.

Apparently, tall greys are a hybrid between greys from Zeta Reticuli and Draco reptilians.  The tall greys have been referred to as Draco-Zetas, or Draco-controlled Zetas, and are very dangerous.

Al Bielek talks about Phil Schneider in an interview, part of which is reproduced here: Alien Invasion; see also (from10 minutes into the recording).

Nichols, Preston (1992). The Montauk Project: Experiments in Time. Westbury, New York: Sky Books. (ISBN 0-9631889-0-9)

Rodrigues, Tony (2021). Ceres Colony Cavalier: A True Account of One Man’s Twenty-Year Abduction. Published by Tony Rodrigues.

The Montauk Project: Experiments in Time

Preston Nichols on his roof with his own delta-T antenna.  Hooking it up created a time-altering field that unblocked his memories of working at Montauk in an altered personality.

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The Philadelphia Experiment  August 12, 1943

The Philadelphia Experiment was the culmination of research carried out by the U.S. Navy into stealth technology. The idea began with Nicola Tesla at the Univeristy of Chicago in 1931, where it was known as the Invisibility Project. The goal was to make ships invisible to enemy radar.

When Franklin D. Roosevelt was inaugurated in 1933, he already knew Tesla from his work for the Navy during WWI. He invited him to Washington and asked him what he was working on. Tesla metioned his invisibility research, and Roosevelt invited him be part of a new initiative bringing together the country’s top scientists at Princeton University. This became the Institute for Advanced Study. Roosevelt made Tesla the director of invisibility research, and German mathematician John von Neumann worked alongside him. Albert Einstein was also at the Institute as a theoretical consultant.

Tesla’s approach was to render ships invisible by using electrical generators to create an “electromagnetic bottle” around a ship. A series of experiments were conducted, and in September, 1940, a small unmanned ship was made invisible in the Brooklyn Naval Yard. Roosevelt was pleased with the success of the experiment, and he ordered a battleship be assigned to the project. It arrived in the Philadelphia Navy Yard in January of 1941.

The United States entered WWII in December 11, 1941. Because German U-boats were sinking many ships, the scientists were under pressure to make stealth technology a reality (the chief medical officer of the Eldridge, Oscar O. Schneider, had sunk 68 Allied ships as a German U-boat captain before he was captured by France and turned over to the U.S. Navy).  An experiment with a crew was scheduled for March of 1942.  However, the electromagnetic field was now 100 times as powerful as the one used in the previous test, and Tesla informed the Navy that he was concerned about the safety of the crew.  The Navy told him that the test had to go forward, so on the evening of the experiment, Tesla sabotaged the equipment.  The next day, the experiment failed; the battleship didn’t become invisible. Tesla quit the project, and Dr. John von Neumann was put in charge.

In September of 1942, a new ship was commissioned for the experiments—the USS Eldridge.  Von Neumann re-designed the field-generating equipment and much work was done building, installing and testing it.  On July 22, 1943, a somewhat successful test was carried out: the Eldridge became invisible for 20 minutes before the order was given to stop it. But there was a problem: the crew became nauseous and mentally disoriented from the EM radiation.  Von Neumann now began to share Tesla’s concern about how the field was affecting the men.  Nevertheless, the Navy informed him that he was to conduct an experiment with a manned ship by the deadline of August 12, 1943.

Eldridge briefing Val Thor

August 9, 1943: briefing aboard the Eldridge. The man sitting in front is an extraterrestrial, and Oscar Schneider, father of Phil Schneider, is sitting behind him to the right.

On the day of the experiment, the Eldridge was taken to the middle of Philadelphia Harbor, where it was surrounded by three ships.  When the equipment was turned on, the Eldridge turned invisible, with only a greenish ozone haze around it.  Suddenly, there was a flash of blue light and the ship completely disappeared.  It reappeared four hours later, but terrible things had happened to the crew.  Additionally, the equipment on board the ship had been intentionally destroyed.

The Navy tried one more invisibility experiment in late October of 1943–this time without a crew.  The ship became invisible, but when it reappeared they found the equipment had again been damaged.  Project Rainbow was terminated and the government turned its attention to developing the hydrogen bomb. (Al Bielek – Part 5)

U.S.S. Eldridge 1944

Who really won the war?

Secret mind-control programs began in America in September of 1946, when President Harry Truman quietly authorized Project Paperclip, a U.S.-government program that allowed the Department of Defense to recruit and hire high-ranking Nazi-German doctors, scientists and spies into the United States.  More than 1,600 Nazis and Italian fascists and their dependents were ushered in through South America, with passports and assistance provided by the Vatican and the Red Cross.  The purpose of this clandestine immigration was to infiltrate American governing jurisdictions, fortify secret societies, and establish new agencies with ongoing agenda of The New World Order.

Among the imports was Werner von Braun.  When NASA was established in 1958, von Braun became the first director of the Marshall Space Flight Center.

Another prominent Nazi recruit for the U.S. was German general Reinhard Gehlen.  Upon his arrival in Washington DC in 1945, Gehlen met extensively with President Truman, General William Donovan, director of the Office of Strategic Services, and Allen Dulles.  The objective was to reorganize American intelligence operations and transform them into the Central Intelligence Agency in 1947, which Dulles would become the director of.  Reinhard Gehlen was also instrumental in creating the National Security Council, from which the National Security Act of 1947 was derived.  This particular piece of legislation was passed to protect and conceal a number of illegal government activities, including secret mind-control programs.  (Trance: Mind Control, Human Slavery and Healing the Nation)

Between 1946 and 1947, President Truman put the government of the United States in the hands of a secret group, the Majestic Twelve, that considered itself above the law and the Constitution, and who were Freemasons and related to Illuminati bloodline families.  Truman worked with German Nazis such as Reinhard Gehlen to create the Central Intelligence Agency and the National Security Agency.  He reorganized the military and restricted information about all things related to outer space and extraterrestrials.  He authorized unlimited ‘milabs’, or military abductions, as well as experiment on humans, in violation of fundamental human rights.

The capture of the United States government by fascists didn’t occur without resistance.  In 1946-1947, Secretary of the Navy James Forrestal ordered Admiral Byrd to put together a task force, which included over 40 ships, to seize the Germans’ Antarctic base.  Ostensibly a scientific expedition, this task force was called Operation Highjump.  When the ships arrived in Antarctica, the Germans and their ET partners used flying saucers to destroy most of the aircraft and at least one of the ships.

Truman made Forrestal Secretary of Defense, but fired him in March of 1949.  He confined Forrestal to a psychiatric hospital under orders not to speak to anyone, and Forrestal was thrown out of a window of that hospital in May of 1949.  The deep state’s mafia-style execution of the defense secretary sent a clear message to anyone who was thinking of exposing the government’s illegal and unconstitutional activities.

Creating a slave-race: Phoenix II

When Operation Paperclip had been completed and all of the German scientists came into the U.S., they went to work at Brookhaven National Laboratories to continue projects they had been working on in Germany—namely time-travel, and also mind-control.  (Al Bielek, Part 5)

With Truman’s reorganization of the military in 1947, stealth research was sent to Los Alamos Laboratory in New Mexico.  Brookhaven National Laboratory in New York was put in charge of human-factor research, of which mind control was one category.  Another project at Brookhaven was the invention of weather-control devices called “radiosondes.”  The weather-control project was the first to be called Phoenix.

In the early 1950s, the military decided to take invisibility research from New Mexico back to Brookhaven in New York, and put it under the umbrella of the human-factor research.  From that point on, all ET-related research was known as Project Phoenix, and Dr. John von Neumann was put in charge of the entire project.

In around 1971, Project Phoenix was moved from Brookhaven to the abandoned Montauk Air Force Station.  One reason for this was to avoid governmental oversight; the other reason was to make use the SAGE radar there as as a transmitter of radio waves for mind-control experiments.  Jack Pruett, an Air Force officer, was put in charge of the mind-control research, and he worked alongside Dr. von Neumann.

At Montauk, the government used adolescent boys and younger children (7 to 8 years old) abducted from local communities for its research.  Using techniques developed by Wilhelm Reich (based on Satanic ritual abuse) the boys would have their heads held under water, then they would be chained to an electrified fence and shocked, and then they would be beaten and told to light up a lightbulb with their minds (see Joseph Powell,  If they survived the torture, they would be given a drug that produced sexual arousal (see “The Science of Mind Control“).  This combination of trauma and arousal induced a state of dissociation, and programs were then implanted in the subconscious.  Psychosexual mind-control, also known as trauma-based mind-control, was the basis for CIA programs such as MK-ULTRA, Monarch, and Mannequin.

Al Bielek was in charge of the programming of the “Montauk boys” from 1976 to 1983.  In 1979, he went to his superiors in the Air Force and demanded that the beatings stop and other methods be used.  When the official refused to consider it, he threatened to go to the press.  The official quickly changed his mind, and from then on they obtained the boys’ consent (still a violation of their human rights since they were both minors and prisoners) and used technology to program them.  Other programs, however, continued to torture children into the 1980s and beyond, as victims such as Tony Rodrigues have attested.

Phoenix II was a huge success for the NSA.  In 1997, Al Bielek estimated that over the years the government had abducted and programmed ten million children.

This is a project to implant and program them for future use. The original program started in about 1975 and 1976. It’s ongoing to this day. They had to pick these kids at a vulnerable age, around puberty. This means that the candidates were selected. They are quite careful about selecting them. They have to fit a certain genetic pattern [Aryan]. They want these candidates to be between 12 and 16, sometimes as old as 17. Beyond that age, around the age of 17, the mindset starts to become fixed, and they can’t really be set up and trained the way they are wanted. The ideal ages seem to be from 13 to 15. They are programmed, conditioned, to be push-button controlled for remote programming already inserted into their subconscious through the implants and the conditioning of each individual.

The “Montauk boys” are now implanted by some very sophisticated techniques. They go through training first, processing, mind control, implants in the subconscious, command factors, personality changes and variants, preconditioning to do certain things upon command. The command will be supplied either by a final level of programming or, if the final level’s inserted, there are certain command functions which can be delivered by a radio transmission. You can transmit from an FM or AM radio transmitter (typically AM) a scalar energy announcement, which will be heard by the candidate via the scalar reception ability of the human brain.

There are 10 million plus in the U.S. alone, and they’re continuing to program.  I didn’t know for what they were being programmed, but now I know.  They are being set up to be assassins, riot makers, spies, sex slaves, whatever.  (Al Bielek, 1997)

Time-travel:  Phoenix III


The Delta-T transmitter was simply an antenna that could translate time waves into a receivable format, a type of time wave receptor.  This Delta-T transmitter was originally designed and built by a man by the name of Nicola Turbo, which we now know today is really Nicola Tesla.  Tesla knew about the technology of the Delta Time Factor, which was crucial if you wanted to return safely from any alternate reality back to this one.  These Delta-T antenna were placed below ground level.  This time manipulation was designed by Tesla in the 1930’s.  (Montauk Project Exposed)

Preston Nichols was an assistant director of the Phoenix Project.  As I mentioned above, the goal of the research being done at Montauk was to apply technical knowledge gained from extraterrestrials to military uses.  One of the projects Preston worked on during the 1970s was reverse-engineering space ships.  As he explains in his book, Encounter in the Pleiades (1996), space ships are operated by an interface between the ship and the mind of the navigator.  They also have a bubble-reality inside of the ship, which allows them to accelerate, stop, change direction, and travel faster than the speed of light without affecting the crew.  The bubble-reality also allows the inside of space ships to be larger than the outside.  These things were being studied by the best scientists in the country at Montauk, Los Alamos and private aerospace companies.  However, though science was much more advanced than the public knew, it was primitive in comparison with the ET technology.

Officially, the time-travel project, Phoenix III, was begun in around 1979.  This was at a time when the Illuminati were preparing to install George H.W. Bush in the White House and Margaret Thatcher as prime minister of the UK.  The National Security Agency was in control of the research.  In August of 1983, and in August of 1943, two unusual events occurred.  On August 1, 1943, Admiral Ernest J. King, Chief of Naval Operations, ordered the Philadelphia Experiment to be conducted by August 12.  On August 1, 1983, the NSA ordered that the power at Montauk was to be kept on continuously until August 12.   On that day, Satanist Aleister Crowley passed his natural son, Amado (meaning beloved), through a toroidal-shaped stone flanked by two phallic-shaped stones in Cornwall, England.  Cornwall is on the same latitude as Montauk Point, New York.  (See “Montauk and Occultism“)

Duncan and Edward Cameron were Navy officers and PhD physicists who were on board the USS Eldridge in Philadelphia Harbor on August 12.  When the ship went into hyperspace, they jumped ship, but instead of landing in the water they arrived at Montauk, Long Island, in the year 1983.  They were taken to Dr. John von Neumann, who was forty years older. He told them that he had been waiting for them.

The next thing we knew there was a helicopter beaming a searchlight into our faces.  We did not know what a helicopter was; they were still in the experimental phases in 1943.  Military police ran out, grabbed us, and took us to a building.  We went down several floors in an elevator, underground.  An elderly civilian walked toward us and said, “Gentlemen. I’ve been waiting for you.  I’m Dr. Von Neumann.”

We didn’t believe him.  We told him that he couldn’t be John Von Neumann because he is a much younger man and we left him about an hour ago.  He said, “Oh, yes. I am.  Unfortunately, you are no longer in 1943.  This is 1983; I am 40 years older.  Welcome to Montauk.

The ability to transport people and objects to the past and future gave the NSA the power to alter the present by changing the past.  It lost no time in transferring highly advanced technologies from 1983 to 1943, and the NSA sent the Cameron brothers and others to other places and times to retrieve ET technologies they wanted. 

Preston Nichols has said that the abandoned Air Force base at Montauk wasn’t used for research until 1971.  However, Peter Moon reports that residents of Long Island during WWII often saw German U-boats off of the coast, and it was clear to them that there was an underwater entrance to the base.  This doesn’t mean that Nichols was wrong: after 1983, the Illuminati expanded their power as much as they could without changing the outward appearance of society, i.e., everything changed except the history books.  The presence of German U-boats in Long Island during WWII was probably one of hundreds of covert post-hoc events.  We are only now beginning to appreciate the cunning of the Cabal, which silently encircled humanity with its coils.

The NSA attempts to bring in the New World Order

In February 1933, Roosevelt escaped an assassination attempt by Giuseppe Zangara, who expressed a “hate for all rulers.”  As he was attempting to shoot Roosevelt, a woman struck Zangara with her purse.  The bullet killed the mayor of Chicago, who was sitting next to the president.  I was never taught this when I was in high school in the 1970s.

A man involved with Montauk, who called himself Larry James, discussed the way in which the NSA experimented with historical changes:

According to Larry, the Montauk time travel equipment was generally operational in the early 1980s.  Their group performed several time-travel experiments.  Apparently, they were able to alter the outcome of the American Civil War, try out different scenarios with World War II, and go all the way back to the Roman Empire to test different outcomes.

After they experimented with the past, they would evaluate if their current state was better or worse.  If better, they let the revised scenario exist; if worse, they changed the scenario back.

While performing these experiments, they quickly learned about the dangers associated with these experiments.  If too many trips to the past occurred causing too much change, that time-line had the potential to fracture and “blink” out of existence. (

In a recent interview with Michael Salla, Stewart Swerdlow explained how the Cabal planned to use the Hadron collider in Geneva to achieve their final goal of enslaving the human race:

CERN is an interdimensional portal.  We learned at Montauk that there are infinite realities.  Every possibility that you can think of exists.  And how did we learn this?  Because they had attempted to send people back in time to change history.  And they found out that you can’t change history.  Whatever is in this timeline, in the so-called past, must remain.  If you alter an event, then it becomes another timeline—parallel to this, but not the same as this.

And so, they realized that in every possibility of existence, you could find something.  So, for example, the Hadron collider in CERN: they know that there are realities where the Nazis maintained control.  There are realities where Atlantis never was destroyed.  There are realities where humans never existed, and so on, and so on.  So what Hadron colliders do is identify alternate realities that enhance and improve the position of the deep state.  And what they are attempting to do is collapse those realities into this one; blend, merge the reality where they have maintained their power.  That’s the idea of the Hadron collider.  And that’s why it’s been sabotaged several times by certain groups who are against that agenda.  (1 hr. 9 minutes

Painting on lobby floor at CERN

For an in-depth discussion of what really went on at Montauk after the 1983 Philadelphia Experiment, see Arkheim Ra (Fractal Weapons on Youtube) below.

Montauk Veterans Shut Down the Operation

Most people will never know how close the human race came to being turned into a race of slaves.  If you think this is an exaggeration, read the words of another whistleblower, geologist Phil Schneider, in 1995:

They’re building two prison camps every seven months.  They’re building two underground military bases every year.  Each one of these military bases . . . they cost somewhere between 17 and 26 billion dollars.  And these kind of huge . . . sums of monies are garnered through CIA drug activity.  It’s just subverting our country.  If you were going to round people up, what better prison camp than one underground?  So once again, these underground bases are most likely being planned as underground prison camps and slave labor factories for the New World Order.  The New World Order is taking – and the United Nations is taking – its orders from, believe it or not, these more powerful outer-space alien entities.  We might call them the large greys or the small greys.  Sinister forces, indeed.

There are 11 civilizations of aliens visiting this planet all the time, all of which are known by the U.S. military, nine of which are . . . pretty bad news.  The New World Order right now, basically, is dismantling countries.  They’re taking their orders directly from the aliens, who’ve got their own timetable.  They want the One World Order because they want the planet for themselves. – Phil Schneider’s Last Talk

Four men who were involved with the Montauk Project came forward beginning in 1986 to talk about what had been going on: Al Bielek, Preston Nichols, Duncan Cameron and Stewart Swerdlow.  But even before that time, in 1983, Preston and Duncan conspired to shut Montauk down.

In 1983, Duncan sat in the Montauk chair and, prompted by Preston, thought of a large black beast rampaging through Camp Hero.  A beast appeared, it rampaged through the base, and Jack Pruett and Preston Nichols set about cutting cables to shut down power to the equipment.  The NSA immediately abandoned the base and shut down the other 24 Montauk bases as well, and both the Air Force and the Navy denied any involvement.  This allowed Preston to go there later on, in 1984, and salvage documents and machinery. (See Preston and Duncan shut down Montauk)

The Montauk Veterans

Al Bielek – (born Edward Cameron on Aug. 4, 1916; died Alfred Bielek in 2011, age 84) Physicist, engineer and veteran of both the Philadelphia Experiment and the Montauk Project.

Ed Cameron

Born in Bay Shore, Long Island, Edward Cameron was a natural son of Illuminati Alexander Duncan Cameron, Sr. and a wealthy young German woman named Arville, who returned to Germany when WWI started.

A gifted student, Edward studied physics at Princeton, where he met Dr. John von Neumann.  He earned a PhD in physics at Harvard in 1939, and his father arranged for him and his brother, Duncan, to join the Navy in September of that year.  They were given officer’s commissions and assigned to the Institute for Advanced Studies at Princeton, where they worked with Dr. von Neumann on the Invisibility Project.

Edward and Duncan jumped overboard from the USS Eldridge on Aug. 12, 1943, and ended up at Montauk on Aug. 12, 1983.  The NSA then began using the brothers to go on missions through the time-space portal they had created at Montauk, that is, until they went to Mars twice without permission.

During the war, Edward assisted Dr. von Neumann in Los Alamos, New Mexico, on the atomic bomb project.  He was still at Los Alamos on the Fourth of July, 1947, when Edward Teller and others in The Majestic Twelve had him charged with espionage and taken to Washington.  There were no charges—they just wanted him away from the lab.  Edward went to California that same month to work at Edwards Air Force Base, and then invented, with Jack Ridley, an ion-propulsion engine in Malibu, California.  However, he wasn’t allowed to see his wife and son until the 1950s.

In 1953, the NSA abducted Edward from his new business in Malibu and sent him to Montauk’s underground facility in 1983.  There his memories were blocked, his body was regressed to the age of six months, and he was placed with the Bielek family in Long Island, New York, in the year 1927.  (

In 1956 the military abducted Al Bielek from Hawaii for the first time and transported him to Montauk in 1976, where he worked in the Montauk boys project for extended periods until it was shut down in 1983.  In the late 1980s Al became a whistleblower, and he continued to speak publicly about the Cabal until his death in 2011.  Al befriended Phil Schneider and convinced him to go public in 1995. also (2000)

Stewart Swerdlow –  Repeatedly abducted for Luciferian rituals, genetic experiments and time-travel missions, Stewart eventually deprogrammed himself and went on to teach other survivors how to do the same.  Stewart has written several books.  The most autobiographical are Blue Blood, True Blood and Montauk: The Alien Connection (

Preston Nichols (1946 – 2018) – Electronics engineer specialized in radio receivers and jamming radar signals; paranormal researcher; recording engineer; time-travel engineer.

Preston Nichols was born on Long Island, New York, in 1946. He received degrees in Parapsychology, Psychology, and Electrical Engineering.  At around the age of 15, Preston was taken to Alderon, a planet in the Pleiades (M 45) cluster, and given an advanced education in the sciences (1996, Cp. 12). 

While attending college on Earth in the 1960s, Preston began working at Brookhaven Laboratories. At the same time, he was working as a sound engineer for the music industry. His engineering genius, combined with his psychic ability to imprint “thought forms” in record albums that made people buy and listen to music, made him the most sought-after engineer in the business, in which he was known as Little Buddha. He recorded for talents such as Chubby Checkers, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Beach Boys, and the Star Wars movie trilogy (2000).

From Brookhaven, Preston went to work for a military contractor, Eaton AIL, from 1971 to 1990. In 1968, his involvement with Montauk began. However, the military activated an alternate personality for his work there, so, like Al Bielek, he led a double-life without being aware of it. He would go to Eaton, and at some point he would receive a signal to go to a certain room in the basement. From there he would be “altered” and transported to the Montauk base, where he would work for a full day. He would then be returned to Eaton and finish his shift there, not realizing he was putting in eight hours in both places.

In around 1973, Preston became the assistant project director at Montauk. He was the genius who put together the equipment that was connected to the Montauk chair, which allowed the NSA to experiment with history.

In the early 1980s Preston became suspicious of Eaton AIL and started investigating Camp Hero. (Montauk was an underground base that was eventually a bubble-reality to enable the NSA to meddle with timelines.) He introduced Duncan Cameron and Al Bielek, and in 1986 they started speaking publicly about the secret projects.

In 1991, Preston returned to Montauk (which never really shut down) to work for the Air Force on a directed-energy weapon, originally invented by Tesla, which was used in 1998 to destroy the Hale-Bopp comet. (

Duncan Cameron, Jr. (originally born in 1917, then in 1951 to the same father; died in 2019 at the age of 68) – A natural son of Committee of 300 member Alexander Duncan Cameron, Sr., Duncan was the half-brother of Edward Cameron.  They were raised together as brothers by their father’s sister on Long Island.  Duncan was educated at the University of Edinburgh, where he received a PhD in physics. 

In 1939 the Cameron brothers enlisted in the Navy and were made commissioned officers because of their education.  They were assigned to work at the Institute for Advanced Research on Project Rainbow.  On the day of the Philadelphia Experiment, they were running the equipment on the Eldridge.  When the equipment began to behave abnormally and they found they couldn’t shut it down, they jumped ship.  Instead of landing in the water they found themselves at the Montauk Force Station in the year 1983.  After this, the NSA used Duncan to perform missions involving time- and space-travel.

At one point, Duncan accidentally lost his time-lock and started ageing at the rate of one year per hour.  They imprisoned his consciousness in an energy field and sent word to his father in the 1940s to have another son.  His father took his fifth wife, had a daughter, and then had a son in 1951.  When the child was 12, in 1963, they transferred Duncan’s consciousness to his body, forcing out the consciousness that had been in the body since birth.

Duncan II went to college, joined the Air Force, and was in the U.S. war against Vietnam.  After being injured, he left the Air Force and ended up in the Montauk Project some time after 1971.  There he was targeted with so much energy from the SAGE antenna that his brain suffered extensive damage.  However, Duncan didn’t exhibit any cognitive impairment.

Duncan II was the primary psychic used in the “Montauk chair” for research into mind-control, the manipulation of matter, and time-travel, including trips to Mars.  In 1983, together with Preston, he materialized the beast that shut down all five bases (see Junior, below). (

In November of 1984, Duncan Cameron came to Preston’s house and volunteered for psychic research he was doing.  Preston helped Duncan to unblock his memories, and they soon discovered that Duncan had been programmed to kill Preston and destroy all of his research.


Age regression

“Age-regression techniques have been traced back to Tesla. When he was working on the original Philadelphia Experiment, he developed a device to help sailors in the event that they lost their time-locks. The purpose of this device was to re-establish an individual with his normal time-locks in the event he had been disoriented from time-travel.” (See Tesla wrist-bands)

“The government (or someone) allegedly used this Tesla device and developed it for physical time regression. Tesla said that if the time-locks of an individual are moved ahead in time, one could actually remove age. If one’s time-locks were pushed back 20 years, the body would be referenced to those locks.”

The body would rapidly age, which is what happened to Duncan.

Edward Cameron was age-regressed to a nine-month-old baby and placed with the Bielek family. Alfred Bielek grew up with his own identity and education, and became an engineer, again working for the Navy.

Beginning in 1956, the government started to abduct Al and send him 20 years in the future—to 1976—to work at Montauk for extended periods of time. He would then be returned to the moment of his abduction with his memory blocked.  It wasn’t until 1985 that Al began to recover memories from his earlier identity as Edward Cameron. (See Al Bielek interview)


KB: Something I’ve never understood is that, since the government had access to time travel and all the information there, why did Montauk get closed down? It seems like it could have been foreseen and stopped.

Bielek: The reason it was shut down in 1983 was because Duncan and others wanted it to be shut down.  They had to wait until after I, as Edward Cameron, and Duncan (the original Duncan) came to Montauk, spent our 12 hours there, and then were shipped back to the Eldridge.  They had to wait until that sequence was over, or they would interrupt a part of the time history in this sequence and alter history drastically; so, they allowed that to happen.  It was after we had returned to the Eldridge when Duncan number-two was given the cue by Preston, sitting in the chair in a semi-transit time.  Of course, he conjured up from his subconscious this monster, which went into the machine, became clothed in physical reality by the station equipment, and which started tearing things up.  (An Interview with Al Bielek –

Arkheim Ra (Fractal Weapons):  “Discussing the “Great Reset” with Arkheim Ra and John Whitberg”

Nichols, Preston (1992).  The Montauk Project: Experiments in Time. New York: Sky Books. (ISBN 0-9631889-0-9) (download)

Nichols, Preston (1996).  Encounter in the Pleiades: An Inside Look At UFOs. Westbury, New York: Sky Books USA. (ISBN 0-9631889-3-3)

Nichols, Preston (2000). The Music of Time. Westbury, New York: Sky Books USA.

Rink, James (2021).  Lone Wolf.  Available through Neological Technologies

Swerdlow, Stewart (1998).  Montauk: The Alien Connection.  Westbury, New York: Sky Books (

Tompkins, William.  Interview by Project Camelot—William-Tompkins—Part-1:f

Casbolt, James (2008).  James Casbolt MI6: Agent Buried Alive.

CHANNEL3X on YouTube has great videos about Montauk, the Philadelphia Experiment and the Phoenix Project.


Exraterrestrials and Illuminati: An Interview With Stewart Swerdlow

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Ohio Exopolitics, hosted by Mark Snyder
April 17, 2011

Our esteemed guest tonight is Stewart Swerdlow, a gifted hyperspace intuitive who focuses his consciousness beyond time and space to determine your foundational mind-pattern upon which all your life experiences are based.  His great-uncle, Yacov Sverdlov, was the first president of the Soviet Union, and his grandfather helped form the Communist Party in the United States in the 1930s.  He was recruited for specific government mind-control experiments, including 13 years at the Montauk Project, which enhanced his natural abilities.

Stewart, a linguist who speaks ten languages, is an expert in de-programming, in determining which Illuminati mind-patterns are embedded in the mind-patterns of any individual.  His mission is to help others heal themselves in a positive way, thus avoiding the negativity he experienced.  He lives in Michigan.

Starting right out, do you think the United States will eventually be under martial law?

In my opinion, we’re almost there.  And it will just take one major catastrophe, either artificially induced by a weapon, or a natural catastrophe, which could also be artificially induced, and that will push us over the edge towards martial law.

Do you believe the United States is going to be split up at some point, and at what point do you that this could happen?

Well, I think it’s already in process, and the so-called president that we have at the moment is doing a very good job of dismantling the United States in the formation of a North American Union.  And when we see this happen, the country as we know it will be split into various sections.  There will be east of the Mississippi headquartered in Atlanta, and west of the Mississippi headquartered in Denver.  And there will be various other regions sub-locations or regions that will be developed out of the existing country.

Let me ask you about our president.  I don’t get anything from our president.  Is there a reason for that?

You mean energetically you’re not getting anything from him?


You know, he is severely mind-controlled.  He’s a very programmed person with a made-up history.  He’s basically one of the biggest scams that’s ever been perpetrated on the American public, and in my opinion, I think it’s a bigger scam than 9-11.

And I have heard you say that there are five gigantic concentration camps in the United States, and that each of them can hold up to five million people.

Yes, that’s true, and they’re in various sections of the United States.  Most of them are in the south and the western part of the country.  And they refer to them— from the Montauk days they referred to them as the re-education center.  And so, basically, those who are dissidents, or those who are creating civil disorder, or going against the rules, they will be sent to those places for re-education.  And either they will come out re-educated, or they will vanish from sight.

Stewart, before the show you stated that the moon landing was a hoax.  And I know in the Billy Meyer contact notes it says that, as well as John Lear, and I wondered if you could elaborate on that.

Yeah.  You know, the U.S. and Soviet space programs began long before the public saw these rockets taking off.  We had people on the moon and on Mars back in the 1950s with the use of alien technology.  And of course, the governments have been in contact with advanced alien cultures for many, many decades.  What technology is given to the public is actually 50 to 100 years or more behind what the government actually uses for itself.  So, much of the space program that we see from NASA is really for public consumption.  It’s really all staged, so that there is a sequence of events that will lead up to a certain point, that people can follow in a so-called logical manner.  But behind the scenes, there’s another space program that’s very different from what we’ve seen on television.

And with what races has our government been in contact?

Wow.  There have been so many.  You know, there are hundreds of billions of galaxies out there, and trillions of civilizations, literally.  For the most part, our government has been in contact with a few hundred different races, but there is only a handful that they really deal with intimiately.

I’ve also heard you talk about that the United States is going to be split up.  Can you tell us a little bit more about that?

Yeah.  The whole purpose of what we see happening politically now is that there is a need to dismantle superpowers so that all can be incorporated or assimilated into a New World Order and a global government under one single control.  And of course, in order to do that, you have to remove national identity, you have to remove patriotism.  And so what we see happening in the United States now is the full methodical dismantling of our independence.  And so that the first step is a union, a North American Union with Canada and Mexico, which is already in progress, and that will incorporate, as per Hillary Clinton, even the Central American countries and the Caribbean.  And that will essentially lead to an American union, that will be both North and South America, as per President Reagan’s statement in the 1980s, when he said he envisions a political and economic union from Alaska to Argentina.

And that’s what we see happening.  In fact, much of South American and Central America uses the U.S. dollar: in fact it’s the national currency of Ecuador, and Panama, and getting to be Costa Rica.  So, we’re seeing a unification of the economy and the politics.  And as it progresses forward in the next year, we will see this union take place—there will be a North American parliament, North American legislation, and that will then break things up.  Because as natural catastrophes occur, terrorist acts occur, there will be a breakup in the various regions in the Americas, so that there’s a re-ordering, if you will, of states, provinces, etc., very much like we see in the EU.  If we look at the EU and we see how countries have been broken up and reorganized, that’s bascially the pattern that we can think of for the United States in the near future.

And I’ve heard you say that thousands of years ago, the reptilians decided to bring an end to the United States in 2003. So, are the reptilians, then, behind their schedule?

Well, a lot has happened that has thrown the schedule off. And I have talked a lot in the last couple of years about what’s going on in the Kuiper Belt. Where there is a massing of a fleet, with races that have never been seen before from places that have been unknown. And the Illuminati have had to re-arrange their schedule in order to accomodate the possible threat from that area.

I’ve also heard you say that— I don’t know if all of our presidents are actually shape-shifters, or have more of this reptilian DNA than the average person.

Well, those that are of the Illuminati families do have a higher percentage of reptilian DNA.  And all of us on Earth—all seven billion people—are hybrids.  We all have a certain percentage of reptilian DNA within our bodies.  But those who are in the Illuminati have a much higher percentage, and those that are at the 50/50-split mark are able to shape-shift.  Now, I would say very few of the actual presidents were able to do that.  In fact, I think hardly any of them were able to with the exception of Bush junior and senior.  But they do have the reptilian religion; they follow a reptilian heirarchy and culture, and that’s what the programming is that they imposed on the population, in order to continue this civilization and culture without deviations and changes.

Do you have some inside information on Bush junior and senior that makes you know that they can shape-shift?

Well, of course I didn’t see that myself, but the people that I have spoken to who were insiders to their rituals did say that they saw them shape-shift.

And I know you worked at Montauk for awhile.  When you were at Montauk, were you ever able to see a reptilian yourself?

Yes. In fact, I believe I did write about it.  At Montauk—which, I was there from 1970 to 1983—there were reptilians.  Now, there were not a lot of them there.  In fact, I don’t remember seeing too many of them over those years.  But they were there, and I know that a lot of the technology came from them and from Sirius-A.  And they were very interested in the effects of mind-control, and programming on children, and on those whose genetics were not conducive to the mind-control and programming.  So, this was a very big effort to see how they can calibrate it to accomodate all the people on Earth equally.

I’ve also heard you talk about the Kennedy assassination.  Were the Illuminati behind that?

Of course.  In fact, all of these global rituals that we see on the news are orchestrated way in advance.  And it’s quite detailed, and there have been books written about the symbolism and the ritualism that occurred at the Kennedy assassination.  But yes, definitely, it was all staged.  And something that has come to be known as the Kennedy Syndrome, where that family decided that they were going to take over the Illuminati agenda and make it their own.  And, of course, that was unacceptable and they were eliminated.

I’ve heard you talk about these hand-signs that the Illuminati use.  Can you tell us a little bit about that?

Yes, it’s kind of like a big brotherhood.  Of course, the famous sign that they use, the sign of the devil with their hands.  All the presidents used it at their inaugurations; even Michelle Obama used it on the front of, I think it was Vogue Magazine, when they had a picture of her on the cover.  All of them use it. And it’s interesting to me because they sometimes say on the news, “Well that’s the Texas sports salute,” or they make some kind of explanation for it.  But if you go through history, and you look at the pictures of political figures and even entertainers over the decades, you’ll see a tremendous percentage using these hand signals in their photographs.

Michelle Obama Flashes El Diablo Hand Signal On Cover Of Vogue bill_clinton_el_diablo

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You have said that the government can use TVs and computers to watch a person when they are at home.  Is this true?

Yes, all electromagnetic devices, whether it’s a television, a computer, a cell phone, can be used to transmit satellite waves, mind-control waves, programming waves.  And it’s two-way.  So, they can see you while you’re doing your work; they know every keystroke you have on your computer, they know what channels you’re watching on your television.  And that’s why everything went digital recently, to make it easier to monitor all of this.  But even your microwave oven—which is why I threw mine away—even when it’s turned off, it’s still on.  And the carrier waves go right through into your home, and even the electricity coursing through your electrical system can have carrier waves of mind-controlling programming.

I heard you on your “Blueblood, Trueblood” CD, where you predicted all of the wars that we would have.  And I think that CD was made before 2003, and you talked about Iraq and Afghanistan and Libya.  Can you elaborate on that?

Yes.  You know, it’s part of the agenda.  You know, when I was in Montauk, I learned it back in the seventies.  I knew exactly what the plan was and how they were going to do it.  And they stage it to look like it’s an uprising, a revolution, what have you, so that they can change the government into something more accomodating for the New World Order and global government.  And that’s what we’re seeing happening now.  You know, these people in Libya and Egypt and Tunisia and Yemen, Bahrain—these are not uprisings by the people.  This is not to overthrow evil dictators, as the media would have you believe.  But, in fact, it’s orquestrated by the NSA and by the Mossad and by MI-5 in order to get rid of the governments that no longer serve a purpose and have to be changed, so that they can be incorporated into a global government.

Are the Illuminati directly under the authority of these reptilian beings?

That’s a very interesting question, and there was a time when the answer would be yes.  But I would say, in the last 30 years or so, the Illuminati have decided that they’d like to create their own galactic empire with Earth as their headquarters, and in fact are going against the original Draco Empire agenda to incorporate Earth into their Draco Empire.  And in fact, they’re turning against the original reptilians for their own creation of their own empire.

The events in Japan: have those been generated artificially by the Illuminati?

Yes.  And even I wrote about this in my Blue Blood, True Blood book, where I said the Japanese royal family is part of a 14th family, which is despised by the main 13 Illuminati families, and that they sought to destroy Japan and that they would sink it into the ocean.  And I had written about that many years ago.  And as we see happening now, Japan, it is sinking.  That last earthquake sank the main island a meter down and eight feet across, and this is just the beginning.  We’re going to see, shortly, another—at least one or two—major earthquakes of the same magnitude that will be very destructive.  And these future earthquakes will be centered further south than where they were located.  You can expect one to be centered near Tokyo and another one centered much further south, almost near Osaka.

So, there’s really only one government, and it’s controlled by the Illuminati, and these countries are artificially created.  So, what we’re seeing is kind of a war between the factions and the Illuminati?

Yeah.  You know, if you throw reptiles or snakes into a pit, they don’t help each other get out of the pit: they kill each other to see who’s left.  So, even though they’re all working towards the same goal, and they’re theoretically on the same side, they are fighting amongst themselves as well.  I like to use the analogy.  It’s kind of like a corporation with a board of directors, but only one can be the chairman of the board.  And so they’ll backstab each other to see who can get that position.  And unfortunately, they use countries and people as their chess pieces in order to accomplish this.

You know, I find this very disturbing.  Do you find it the same way?  I mean, it’s depressing to me.

Of course it’s disturbing.  You know, people should not live like this, of course.  But I always say in my work that we all need to take responsibility.  It’s not that we’re— we’re not the innocent victims: we are willing participants.  So, we have to look at mankind, humankind, and say, okay, there’s this species mind-pattern that has victimization.  And when the species has a victimization mentality, it will attract oppressors and tyrants.  So, if we want this all to stop, we each individually and collectively need to work on changing our mind-patterns, removing the victimization.  And when we do, the Illuminati can no longer exist.

That’s and interesting concept.  So, we’re attracting this destruction because of our thought-patterns.

Exactly correct.  And I like to use analogies.  Thoughts are like film, mind is the projector, and physical reality is the screen.  So, if we don’t like the movie that’s playing around us, we have to change the film, which is the way we think.  And if we each do that, it will turn the tide and what is projected out.

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(23:45) Stewart, you have so much information.  And you learned all of this when you spent 13 years at Montauk.  How did they do this?  Did they sit you down in classrooms and teach you our galactic history, and stuff like that?

Yes.  And by the way, not all of this I learned from Montauk.  I learned, obviously, subsequent to those time periods, other information from other sources.  But during my time in Montauk, yes, we were indoctrinated.  Because they wanted us to feel happy or content with what we were doing, they told us that human beings were incapable of controlling their own destiny because they were considered low-level.  And so, what we were doing, and what the powers there were trying to accomplish, was actually going to help human-kind survive, because they were like little children that were helpless and needed a higher power, or stronger power to direct them.  So, that’s what we were told at the time.

So, what about the stuff on the Georgia guidestones that say 500 million people?  Is that true?  I mean, I think we could probably have a much larger population than that if we were efficient and we used the correct technologies.  And I think we could probably have a fairly large population and still not destroy the planet.  What are your thoughts on that?

Well, I agree with you.  You know, I travel all over the world, and I see vast, vast territories on this planet that are totally uninhabited.  They’re completely empty, with all kinds of natural resources in them.  In fact, most of our planet is empty.  The seven billion people are crammed into a limited area.  In fact, you fly across the country, the United States, and you’ll see most areas look empty.  This planet, if properly prepared and properly managed, could handle two or three times the population that we have now without a problem.  It actually could be very fertile.  But we are being purposely restricted and purposely put into fear mode, so that we have to acquiesce to the rules and regulations that are imposed upon us.

But as far as— I’ve heard for many decades out stories that the Illuminati want to destroy the population.  Patently untrue. The Illuminati did not work for thousands of years and spend huge amounts of resources and money to build a slave population to then destroy it.  That doesn’t make any sense whatsoever.  What they did intend to do at some point is to re-distribute the population to other worlds for colonization, and for expansion of what I mentioned earlier as their new empire.

So, who is behind the population reduction?

Well, it’s the Illuminati families, of course, but the reduction is specific.  It’s not a global destruction of people; they don’t want to reduce the total population significantly.  They want to remove those who are considered un-programmable or problems for the agenda.

I would think that people like me would probably be in trouble, then.

Well, we are in that club of problem-makers, but I would rather be in that club than in the herd of people who just go along with everything.

And I’ve heard you say that human life represents about 70 percent of the life in the galaxy.  And I think that makes perfect sense.  There are a lot of people that can’t wrap their mind around that.  To me that makes perfect sense.  If we have a sample of a galactic population, and we have one planet out of however many are in our solar system, nine or twelve, and it’s populated with human beings, to me it’s logical to assume that 70 percent of the life in the galaxy or something, some high percentage like that, is probably human.  Can you comment on that?

Yes.  It’s also because we have a common source in the Lyraen star system, which was the home of all human beings, for all intents and purposes.  And so, the life-form of humanity, the shape that we have, had a common origin.  Now, there are humanoid forms that are very much like us, which I consider part of that 70 percent of the general humanoid form.  They don’t look exactly like us, but they’re very similar to us.  And of course, then, there’s another 25 percent that’s reptilian or reptilian-like.  Five percent which is other: there’s insect type, there are all kinds of beings out there—everything you can imagine exists somewhere.

Now, the reptilians.  Generally speaking, they live longer, I assume, they’re physically more powerful.  Are they more intelligent as well?

Well, yeah; a matter of opinion here.  As far as being long-lived, yes, they do.  And the reason is that they have a higher copper content in their blood—that’s why they’re called blue-bloods—and those who have a higher copper content in their blood are much more disease-resistant, and they can carry a lot more immunity in their system.  So, they do live relatively longer than the average mamalian being.  But, you know, the human DNA really is immortal—it can go on indefinitely.  It’s only the mind-pattern that causes illness to be created in the body.  And so if we unlock that 97 percent of our DNA, which scientists call junk, but which is really the blueprint of the God-mind within us, if we unlock even a percentage of that, we could literally achieve physical immortality.

You know, that’s very interesting that you said that our thoughts are very much related to our health.  Could you elaborate?

Sure, there’s a flow-chart that I like to use.  And I always start with thoughts, because all we are is thought, energy, electromagnetic thinking.  And when that descends into a physical reality, it attracts the atomic structure that’s free-floating in that reality.  And the atomic structure creates a pattern around the electromagnetic thought, kind of like a magnet attracting metals.  And the atomic structure forms into a pattern of protein bases, which become the DNA, which is the blueprint of the body.  So, literally, what you think is what you physically become.  So, if you change the way you think, and change the patterns, then the DNA will have to accomodate that, and you can create any kind of physical manifestion that you wish.

So, positive thinking is incredibly important.

Absolutely.  And Russian scientists have determined that the structure of our DNA, or the way the molecules form within it, is almost identical to language syntax.  Which is why you have to be very careful of what you verbalize, because the words are energy, and affects the DNA in your body.

Do human beings have the power where their thoughts can literally affect reality?

Yeah, there are people who already do that; that’s been proven for many, many years now.  And again, going back to the Russians, because they really were advanced in studying all of this, especially in the Soviet Union, they developed Cryllian photography, which literally showed the energy field in and around bodies, living and inanimate, and what you thought changed the way that energy flowed.  So absolutely, what you think affects not only yourself, but everything around you.

So, do you meditate, or do you have a ritual that you perform to control your thoughts?

Well, as my work will demonstrate, I always level, where it’s pure thought, pure energy.  Yes, I do meditations, I do visualizations, I do prayer—everything in energy, and if you know how to work with the energy, you can create anything that you desire.

I want to shift back to the reptilians; they actually colonized Earth about a million years ago, is that correct?

Approximately, yes.

Was it the reptilians that built a lot of the monolithic structures we see, like the great pyramid, or the great stones at Pumapuncu?

Those monuments that you mentioned were actually built by, or with Sirius-A technology, and also helped by the Atlanteans on Earth hundreds of thousands of years ago.  And again, all technology came from elsewhere.  It was not native to this planet—it was brought from somewhere else.  And the highest technology that we know of, it comes from the Sirius-A star-system.

And what civilization is in Sirius A?

Well, they’re called Sirians.  Sirius was originally considered to be a binary star-system, Sirius-A and B, but in fact there is a Sirius-C star, so it’s actually a trinary system.  But they had a high influence on the Atlantean and ancient Egyptian cultures on our planet and were behind much of the pyramid development.

Were they human beings from Sirius-A, B and C?

These are humanoid, but they are not considered to be human beings, no.  They have a different structure, they have a very different origin, and in fact their origin is unknown as far as how they developed.  It’s believed they might have come from a different universe or parallel universe.

But how did they look?

They are about anywhere from seven to nine feet tall.  They have very large oval-shaped heads—they come to a pointy chin, pointy nose.  They have very large blue eyes, very aquiline nose, very, very thin body—-almost that you would consider emaciated—and very white skin.  And they, when they stretch out their arms, out to the sides, they would look like an Ankh, which is why the Egyptians had that hieroglyph, based on a Sirian structure.

So, these Sirians, our government must know about this.  Are they ever going to reveal the true history of Earth?

Well, you know, they’ve never revealed the truth yet.  So as long as the Illuminati are in power, everything they reveal will be tainted with what they want you to know think.  They often reveal information which is really disinformation, and that is what I call a lie sandwich: it’s the truth in the middle and two lies on the outside, or there’s two truths on the outside and a lie in the middle.  But either way, you get hooked on the one truth part, and so you believe the whole thing.

Let me shift gears to Mars.  I’ve had guests on the show say that there was a civilzation on Mars, maybe 200,000 years ago.  Can you tell us about that?

Yes, in fact, I’ve written about that in my Blueblood, Trueblood book.  Mars was once very Earth-like, with oceans and an atmosphere.  And when the Lyrean civilization was attacked and destroyed by the Draco, there was a contingent of them that colonized Mars, because that was very habitable at the time.  And that’s why we have structures there on the surface.  And in fact, even now, science is saying that there were once oceans on Mars.  And in the Martian spring and summer, you can actually see, if you have a good telescope, green plants growing in the northern hemisphere of Mars, so there is life there still.  And there was a very great civilization that was there.  Of course, the Draco destroyed that as well, and some of the refugees from Mars came to Earth and started the Sumerian civilization.

Do the Dracos still plan on destroying the human race, then?

They are not planning to destroy the race—their agenda is to assimilate the races that they come across, and to blend them into their empire.  So that’s really what they have in mind, except that the agenda has been thwarted by the Illuminati, who have decided to make their own agenda, so that mommy and daddy Draco have to [UI] them.

But in the other places in our galaxy, are there still wars between the Draco and our ancestors?

Well, the ancestors are dead.  But I will say that the galaxy is a very dangerous place.  And unfortunately, despite what new-agers believe about aliens, there’s no [UI] out there.  The evidence shows, even from when I was in Montauk they showed there’s war after war after war.  And the Sirians were always at war with somebody out there, and so were the Rigelians and so were the Draco—it’s a very dangerous place.  I’d say that our galaxy is a very bad neighborhood.

Do you consider the Illuminati more oppressive or the reptilians?

That’s a very good question.  Whether it’s the Illuminati or the Draco or any other group that comes to you with a control agenda, it’s inappropriate.  And human beings need to develop their future on their own without interference and without control systems imposed upon them.

Basically, then, life here on Earth, if I understand you correctly, is not native to the planet.  The first settlers were the reptilians, and later we got people from the Lyrean star system—human beings—but basically all of the life here on Earth was from somewhere else?

It was either brought here or created here.  This was really a water-world before colonization began.  Our planet was totally covered in water.  And that’s evident everywhere.  You know, you could go to Kansas, and dig down deep enough, and you’ll find salt water under the ground, because that’s what used to be here covering the entire surface.  So, it wasn’t until that changed that colonization was possible.  And the first ones here were the reptilians.

And so, yes, everything on Earth, all life, was either brought here or generated here artifically.  So, nothing is really natural.

I want to talk about the sun.  Is the sun a fireball, as people think, or does it work differently?  For instance, if you go higher and higher in our atmosphere, it gets colder.  So, our proximity to the sun doesn’t completely determine the heat that a planet gets; is that true?

That’s correct.  It goes by the generation of light.  And it’s the light that reflects off of the planetary surface that causes the heat to occur.  And you’re correct: that’s why the further up you go in our atmosphere, the colder it gets.  But if the sun were really hot, the opposite would be true: it would get hotter as we go up.  Space is freezing cold.  And so, it’s not that the sun is hot: it just generates light.  And then our atmosphere reflects that light against the oceans and against the land mass, and that’s what generates the heat.

(Question about the fact that the human race was bred by other races.)

Everything in creation comes from God-Mind.  Every single thing is from God-Mind.  But humanity was a creation artificially.  And that’s why it says in the Book of Genesis: Let us make man in our image—it’s plural.  And in the Old Testament, all references in Hebrew to God are plural.  There’s no singular mention of God.  It’s a group effort, apparently.  And so, basically, it’s describing that alien groups that created mankind out of genetics [UI].

Stewart, are you saying that we do reincarnate?

Yes, but you know, reincarnation, just like time and space, is an illusion.  Because if you look at the real picture, everything is happening simultaneously, so it’s simply a matter of where you’re focused at any given moment.

What can we do to change things for the positive?

Very good question.  As I mentioned earlier about the victimization mind-pattern of the species, what we can do is do our release work, grow up the child within, do our deprogramming techniques, and basically take our own minds back.  And when we do that individually and collectively, we will actually change everything on our planet for the better, and project out a more positive and beneficial experience for ourselves and for the entire species.  And that’s why I urge everyone to look within.  Look where you are projecting out parts of yourself and perhaps contributing to what we see in the world, and release that from yourselves and change it, so that you project out something that is more beneficial to yourself and others.

Swerdlow, Stewart. (2002).  Blue Blood, True Blood: Conflict and Creation–A Personal Account.  St. Joseph, Michigan:Expansions Publishing Company, Inc.

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