Phil Schneider’s Last Talk – November 1985 (full transcript)

Denver, Colorado

Al Bielek:  I met Phil over the telephone approximately three years ago, and in person about two years ago.  And during that period of time I became very well acquainted with him.  He was at that time still working for the government, and he didn’t say much about what he did.  But nonetheless, over a period of time I became well acquainted with him.  I found him to be a person of integrity and honesty.  And about one year ago, he became totally fed up with the New World Order and the establishment.  He thought he was working for the betterment of mankind, and the work that he was doing as a geologist for our government, as well as for NATO, and he found out that it could be, and was, actually anything but that.  So his revelations became, in many respects, my revelations, and I urged him last winter and spring to go public and lecture.  Finally got him out.  He’s given over 30 lectures to date, all very successful, very interesting.  In fact, so successful there have been 13 attempts on his life since the beginning of the year.  And he’s survived them all.  Well, all I can say is, God must be protecting him because he has a message.  So, without further ado I would like to introduce Mr. Phil Schneider.  And understand also, everything is being recorded and the video and audio tapes will be available later.  Please give a warm welcome to Phil Schneider.

Phil Schneider: I guess I can always start off by saying, “Loose lips sink ships.”  I’m Phil Schneider.  I worked 17 years for the United States government as a geologist and aerospace engineer, as well as a structural engineer.  I worked in elusive occupations with Morrison Knudsen, Bechtel, Page Aerospace, ALA France, EG&G, and a host of other— Los Alamos laboratory and these kind of things.  But rather than bore you with all those statistics, I’ve got a real mixed bag here of different topics, and it might be a little bit like brain overload, but I’ll start from the beginning.

Like I said, I worked 17 years.  Co-invented methods of shape-charge blasting as well as laser rock deflagration, which means rock is literally melted or powdered by a special maser-laser combination, and the residue of the rock underneath is applied as a coating, as a liquid coating, kind of like instant agate, if you could imagine a hunk of agate, which is a hard silica mineral—and a rock, actually.

But up here we have another topic.  This is an area where I worked.  I worked 11 years of the 17 years at Groom Lake.  It’s in the Nellis Air Force Base area.  In fact, Groom Lake is— I’ll show you in the picture right here.  Right here.  Groom Lake is quite the place.  A lot of rumors and other kinds of things have come out of there.  Of course, people have stood on the outside for years and wondered what’s been flying there; there’s all kinds of things been flying.

Let me give you a brief overview; start in ancient-history land here.  Back in 1909, the U.S. Cavalry was engaged in catching some bandidos that had crossed over the Mexican border into a place called Truth or Consequences, New Mexico.  And they went into a cave or hideout and killed the so-called bandits.  But what they found out they couldn’t explain, and they were called horseshoe craft at that time, or horseshoe ships—they were UFOs.  And (they) saw these, what they call demons, gray demons, little gray guys, all around the place.  That was in 1909.

Now, in 1933 our government was actively engaged with the Europeans, mostly the French and the English and special research dealing with aerial phenomena.  And once again, the term, flying saucer or flying disc didn’t come about until much later—supposedly right around the mid-1940s.  Anyway, the whole thing here is that—  Also in 1946, I might want to add, we were engaged in atomic-bomb testing and this this kind of [thing], and, of course, the area of Bikini Atoll—some of the pictures are over here on the white board—are showing with the actual language of both the U.S. Army and U.S. Navy archives.

Anyway, these flying ships we’re seeing since 1945, ’46—some of them are called Foo Fighters and you-name-it—they were fully known about maybe as early as 1935 or ’36 by our U.S. Navy.  And there was a shallow underwater base at Bikini Island, and that was probably the one reason why a number of atomic bombs were exploded in that area—rather than other areas, which they could have been, even more remote out in the South Pacific—at Operation Crossroads.

Well, anyway, this all led up to, later on, about six, eight years later, in 1954 during the Eisenhower administration, it led to a interesting treaty called the Grenada 1954 Treaty, and it was the alien-human treaty.  And supposedly the aliens had come in and exchanged technology, and they’d want to take an occasional human being and a few head of cattle, and accurate books were supposedly to be kept and all this kind of stuff.  And of course, eventually all that broke down.  And aliens are notorious for being liars, even greater liars than we humans are, so alien treaties are often just not worth the piece of paper they’re written on; they’re just really kind of worthless.

Anyway, my work as a geologist in building underground military bases, some of which are over two miles underground.  And I think when you listen to Al (Bielek) tonight, if you have a chance to listen to him, he will speak of—  Al’s actually been on some of the high-speed monorail subway cars, if you want to call them, that link these bases together.  Some of them are capable of riding on a cushion of air about three-quarters of an inch off a rail at the better part of Mach II.  And he’s actually been on one of these trains; I’ve only been in one of the tunnels and helped build some of the tunnels.  Incidentally, I helped work on thirteen deep underground military bases, actually had hands-on experience.  Notorious was the one in around the Dulce, the southern of southeastern and southwestern sides of Dulce, New Mexico, in the Los Alamos Laboratory region, was where we built some hermetically sealed rooms that were very deep, going down over a mile.  We also built additions onto Groom Lake and S-2 and S-4 complexes.  There are a total of nine underground or— called— they’re called DUMBs, like “You can learn a lot from this dummy.”  But DUMB stands for deep underground military base, and, or deep underground— DUMB-2 for instance, is a submarine base, and I have built a few of those, too, which are off our continental shelves and in certain islands out in the Atlantic and the Pacific, in strategic locations.  All this can hardly— in an hour’s time I could hardly squeeze all this in; so I’ll be kind of rambling here, if you’ll just bear with me.

The main topic of my discussion here is to link up basically what’s going on with these deep underground military bases; what they’re being used for; what is the present situation now being employed, both by our federal government, which is slowly being phased out by the United Nations government, as well as the “New World Order,” which is an even higher entity; and who these higher entities are taking their orders from.  And try and link up, basically, what’s going on.

A lot of us have been kept in the dark.  We’ve been given, maybe most recently, over here, photographs of an alien at Roswell.  Now, I’ll just very make a very brief statement about that. The photographs cannot stand up to a computer grain analysis test and therefore are retouched or faked. They’re not real.  The real one, the real photograph of the of the charred or dead alien that was one of the several that were autopsied— this over here was given to me by a friend by the name of Skip Frombag of Seattle.  And his father worked as one of the principal doctors.  He was from Germany at the time and worked on some of the autopsy material, from what I understand, along with other people.  Anyway, you just can’t believe everything; and that goes for me.  You’ve got to get out there and do your homework.  Like I always say, you might say, “You don’t put your spectacles on: you put your skepticals on when you listen to me.”

So if we can, if we can have a show of hands here, how many people have heard about Roswell, New Mexico?  Very good; almost all.  And how many people have heard about the black helicopters and the other kinds of flying-saucer type equipments out at Groom Lake and other places?  Pretty good.

Well, this, obviously, is a nice enlightened audience.  Most of you have probably seen what a black helicopter is, or maybe even gotten rare glimpses of an F-117-A black jet, or stealth, as they’re often called, or a B-2 bomber, B-1 bomber, or some of these other sophisticated aircraft that are now being touted as the new technology.  Once again, where did we get this new technology?  Well, obviously we’ve had a little hand in that.  Our little alien, so-called buddies (ha, ha) have it kind of exchanged things, but not without a great cost.  The cost of which has been, a lot of people have disappeared.  Some, and I’ll blow this statistic by you: there’s, according to current FBI and Defense Intelligence Agency and CIA statistics, 100,000 children and one million adults disappear every year.  And these are not kidnappings or murderers or rapes or suicides or anything.  Totally unaccounted for.  And where are these people going to? Nobody knows. Maybe one of us in this room or somebody has, has encountered such an individual and lost a loved one or a friend or something, and that’s unfortunate.  My best friend, Ron Lee Rummel, several years ago got himself murdered, because we dared to put out in print—at that time I was still working for the government and so was he—we dared to put in print that the so called the Strategic Defense Initiative, or Star Wars, is part of the New World Order and takes its actions—  It was originally written as a kind of a spoof or a joke.  We had one of these alien greys dressed up and had New World Order insignia on it, and of course that wasn’t taken very nicely and my friend got himself murdered.  It was called a suicide, but now it’s been turned over to special authorities, who have now acknowledged it was a homicide.

(14:00) Other than that, I’d like to also mention something about my father.  My father was a U-boat captain in Hitler’s Navy, and he got captured and taken over.  I didn’t find this out until about two weeks before he died, on his death bed.  He kind of told everybody in total shock—I was one of them.  In fact, I didn’t believe him; I  thought it was kind of in delirium or something like that.  And of course, other things have come up since.

And so, anyway, he was captured by the French, turned over the Third Army, the U.S. Third Army; U.S. Third Army turned him over to the Navy.  And he was a master machinist.  That’s not a journeyman.  The master means they can take a block of metal and make a gun or a watch or some other fine instrument.  And he was a master machinist.  He later became an MD doctor and part of the aerospace medicine group of the United States Navy.  He was instrumental in helping build the USS Nautilus and its first nuclear-powered predecessor, The Enterprise—the first nuclear-powered aircraft carrier—and other other ships like it.  He pioneered all the ways and building very small miniature nuclear engines, and he even helped build— later on in his life he helped develop the infamous grid-bed nuclear motor, which is now employed, and some things that look like flying saucers that people claim are flying saucers.  Yes, we, the United States Air Force, and other armed forces, are training other European forces to fly unidentified— or now identified flying saucers.  We’ve actually built built several prototypes that are flying under the names of black craft.

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My position as a geologist and engineer got me to see a lot of things in the world—I’ve been in over 70 countries.  I also worked for NATO.  I carried a level-three security clearance with Orion rhyolite factor—rhyolite is a hardening factor, only given out to a handful of civilians and maybe a couple of hundred military men worldwide.  I thought I was doing the nation, the United States, as well as the world, a favor; I thought I was kind of keeping my end up.  Well, it didn’t work out that way.  And I was to later find out that these underground bases are now being employed as strategic basis for in case there is martial law in this country.  Right now, our military professors that used to be in war colleges and the like are training people like ex-Russian KGB and Spetsnaz people right here on American soil.  I’ve seen it with my own two eyes, along with other people, other geologists.  By the way, I’m still a geologist, still do geological survey work.  However, I don’t work for the government anymore.  I took my security clearance and all my government stuff and cut it up and send it back to the—pardon my French—SOBs.

When I found out that a number of these 131 deep underground military bases are being used to subvert the Constitution of these United States and its people, I says, “That is enough.  I can’t possibly be connected.”  “Oh, Mr. Schneider, you can’t quit,” they said.  “Well,” I says, “yes, I can.  I’m an individual; I’m going to quit.  And I’m walking off the job.”  And he says—  So I got arrested and (was) casually told, “Well, you gotta finish your job.”  And so I caved in to that part; I finished three weeks.  And then I— at that time my father was dying, and I was allowed (to go) home and I never went back for my paychecks.  Don’t intend to, either.

These people are beginning to show signs of being our utmost enemy.  I’m talking about military people now engaged in training foreign troops on American soil, clearly against the Bill of Rights and the U.S. Constitution.  It’s why we formed a government, why our forefathers formed a government, a republic of these United States, in the first place, way back 200-plus years ago.  Because the quartering of soldiers, taxation without representation, law by edict—otherwise known as today’s version, executive order—among other things.  The very reasons that we became free, a free Republic, a free society, possibly one of the greatest nations to ever be a nation on this Earth, were instilled in our founding fathers that are now so far away from the people now running our federal government structure.

(20:00)  So, I’m here today to touch upon a number of subjects, one being that these underground bases—roughly over three of them per state.  There’s now, instead of 12 prison camps, there’s 39: that’s almost one per state.  They’re building two prison camps every seven months.  They’re building two underground military bases every year.  Each one of these military bases, by the way, these underground military basis, they cost somewhere between 17 and 26 billion dollars—billion dollars.  They employ 1,800 to 10,000 workers each in varying grades of skill.  They gobble up totally, through the black budget, over one-quarter of the black budget, or roughly 310 billion dollars.  Of course, you may say, “Where are these figures coming from?”  Well, the black budget, as we know black projects—which anything called black means hidden—hidden from Congress, hidden from the American people, and very few people are even in the know about it at all.  But the black budget per year garners over $500 billion a year.  And these kinds of huge quantities and sums of monies are garnered through CIA drug activity, National Security Agency clandestine operations—mostly in Panama, in South America.  Now also engaged in Russia in bringing in, refining strategic metals.

By the way, you might want to ask, “Where’s all these kinds of interesting new metals coming?”  Over here on the white board we have the new periodic table: it’s got 140 elements.  Now, in our high schools of today—I was in high school about a week ago—I saw a new periodic table.  it had 105 elements.  Somewhere, we’re not being told the truth.  We’re being lied to at every turn in every corner.  We’re considered less than morons.

So the government has made itself an entity, an independent taxing body, an entity unto itself, and isn’t accountable to anybody—not even the so-called New World Order.  They just go ahead and do everything willy-nilly as they please.  There’s nobody checking; they don’t have to worry about this.  Occasionally there’s a senator pokes his nose in here and there, and that senator finds out, either nicely or not so nicely, that you don’t do things like that.  Now, if we’re to gain a grip on our country, if we’re to take our country back, we must first ask our public officials: if they cannot tell us the truth, then we will impeach them or they will be impeached.  Or they will be tried as traitors.  This is pretty stiff language.  Already, it’s slowly beginning to trickle out, and it will occur to a number of people and this may be the only way out.

Also, our founding fathers, George Washington, Patrick Henry, and a few of the other ones, came up and said, “You don’t want to let the beast out of the box.”  And they were talking about a runaway government.  You don’t want to allow your government to become like England at that time.  And so they warned us about this very same kind of thing.  First of all, the United States is not a democracy; it’s not (even) a republic anymore.  It should be a republic; that’s “and to the republic for which it stands; one nation under God.”  By way, we can’t even pray in the public schools anymore: we have to have a Supreme Court judge or group of them, plus Janet Reno and company, among other things, telling us what to do, interpret for us as if we cannot read with our own two eyes and understand with our mind.  This, of course, is bad policy all the way around.  And we, I guess I don’t need to blow that by your ears.

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Okay, on another subject, I have a number of items up here at the table, one of which here is—I can show it—is a heavy hunk of rock, indeed.  It has a weight of about, a little bit more than a pound—two and a half times the weight of uranium.  It’s not radioactive, can never be made radioactive.  It’s composed of earth, rare-earth clays, and powdered metals, as well as alien element, an alien element, mostly from crashed-retrieved flying saucers and the kind that have happenstance to crash in our deserts and backyards, so to speak.  It’s called murinite.  This is employed in every stealth aircraft, every black jet throughout the black budget.  Also in very small quantities in the skins of black helicopters.  Murinite.

(26:13)  Here’s another thing.  Here’s a piece of probably the purest titanium you’ll ever hear (of) or see.  It’s so pure— it’s also composed with other alien elements to make it extremely tough.  It’s capable of withstanding temperatures in excess of 7,000 degrees Fahrenheit.  Our new Phoenix-class submarines—which we’re building two a month right now—  Phoenix-class submarines is a black-budget program, each one of those submarines costing $208 million just for the titanium hull, which is made of this material—approximately 10,000 pounds of it.

Now, we’ve got supposedly, as of the data right now, we’ve got 106 of these submarines.  They’re plying the waters and the waves.  They can dive to a depth of over 7,000 feet and hold that for three months.  It’s a fantastic submarine, indeed.  It has 11 grid-bed nuclear motors on it, engines, that run everything—purify the air.  By the way, these aren’t your usual nuclear motor installations.  They’re very small.  They’re probably no bigger than this podium, weighing less than 3,000 pounds, putting out as much as the equivalent of three aircraft carriers of the Enterprise class.

(28:00)  But these Phoenix-class submarines are getting this metal.  Now, where are we getting the metal?  Well, it’s being stockpiled in a number of strategic locations.  Supposedly, I’ve heard stories, “Well, it’s being mined on the moon,” and I have no way of proving that one way or another.  I think we’re probably getting it from Russia, and/or refining it in outer space.  We’re shuttling basically a shuttle, a secret shuttle flight.  one a week now is going up and back.  What are they shuttling?  Well, obviously they got kind of their own little laboratories up there, space station, and all this kind of stuff.  Remember, what you’re being told is only just a smattering of the truth; it’s not the real truth.  Maybe it’s five percent of the truth.  Maybe it’s not even that.  You can rest assured you’re not getting much.

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Another strategic metal is this particular bar with some strange crystals on it.  Scalenohedral crystals of niobium-titanium-rhenium-copper oxide.  This complex group of elements, not found on Earth, and specific quantities—this was developed at Los Alamos through EG&G and other outfits—are employed in all black jet aircraft—all of them; including the sport model, the little flying saucers we occasionally see over at Groom Lake.

And by the way, now, if we happen to be with a video camera, you know, taking pictures of the so-called area around Groom Lake, it’s now— you can get your equipment confiscated, your car, your house.  it’s considered the same thing as a drug dealer, and you’ll go to jail for five years, up to five years, and a million-dollar fine.  I personally don’t think—this is what I’m hearing—I just don’t think that this kind of punitiveness is what we need in America and we have to get rid of it; otherwise, we’re going to die with no America.

Here’s some other elements.  Here’s a very light element.  It’s composed of lithium metal, as well as a alien element.  A little heavier than hydrogen, but a little lighter than helium.  Also employed in this; it’s used in secretive methods of propulsion.  And it also is in a peculiar scalenohedral crystalline form.  And anything scalenohedral—and by the way of scalene triangle is no side is equal to another side—the scalenohedral metallic crystaline structure is definitely an alien element, or an alien technology converted over to our own technology.

These were given to me about a year ago.  They’re called alien, alien aurora drops.  It’s supposedly the skins of the black jets.  Some of the ones that are coming in at very high rates of speed, they’re still glowing, red-hot, white-hot.  And they’ll sit out there and cool off, and they’re dripping their material off of them.  And it’s kind of like a rubberized coating.  It’s not rubber; I can tell you that.  It’s as hard as lava rock or harder, capable of withstanding tremendous temperatures.  But nonetheless, some of it sloughs off every time, and so they just kind of scoop it up and throw it in the trash can, a few pieces of it.

Here’s one of the hardest so-called man-made rocks.  Once again, it’s got a number of alien counterparts to get an alien crystalline structure to it—very advanced.  It’s about 11 times harder than a diamond, about 70 times stronger than a diamond, capable of withstanding temperatures in excess of 10,000 degrees Fahrenheit.  It is employed as very thin coatings on windows, tiny windows, and hypersonic aircraft—aircraft that exceed Mach V.

Here’s an interesting artifact.  Right here in this hunk of rock—which, by the way, was an old 100,000-year-old chipping tool found in Syria.  Jordan rounders gives me is a imprint of— looks like a fossil, but it’s not.  It’s an imprint of a small mechanical part with exactly 360 kind of like rotor blades.  Well, this rock is 220 million years old.  Who was making machines 220 million years ago?  Maybe [unintelligible] was right after all.

Here we have a actual piece of advertised fruit, or it’s similar to a lime.  It’s even been pecked by a bird at one time, and that’s still there.  So it was instantly turned to agate.  It’s the same agate or chemical structure as material found at Hiroshima and Nagasaki after the bombings in World War II, where grasses and flowers and flower, petals of flowers and other kinds of things were instantly petrified, turned to agate; it is the same identical crystalline structure.  However, this particular case, is about 20 million years old.  And it’sstill got its original green coating.  And it’s basically unchanged, perfect condition.

(34:00)  Likewise, here’s a garlic plant about somewhere between 20 and 35 million years of age.  And once again, it’s got that same pink agate coating.  And here are some pieces of the metal skin from the crashed disc at Roswell.  It was given to me when I was 14 years old.  My father was visiting one of his old friends in the Navy Archives—as well as he was in the Royal Navy in England—and I, as a 14-year-old boy, I says, “Gee, Dad, can I ask Johnny something?”  “Oh, go ahead, ask him.  Get anything you can from him.”  You know, that kind of thing.  And I says, “Well, do you think I can have a piece of this metal?”  “Oh, no, no, you can’t have that.”  “Oh, give it to the kid.  What the heck: he won’t have it very long anyway.”  Well, I’ve had it all this time.  It’s kind of a unique thing.  They were able to break the scan of that craft, by the way, by dropping it into a bath of liquid nitrogen and hitting it with a mechanical or hydraulic hammer, and it shattered into little bits.  And it was later analyzed and adapted for our own technology.

(35:00)  All of these artifacts are fine.  But once again, the main part of this talk is, where’s it all leading to?  We get very little spinoff to where any of this is leading to.  Occasionally we’ll get a new computer, or maybe a quartz watch or some little trinket—kind of like giving the Indians beads a couple of 100 years ago, well we’re getting these little spinoffs.  But the black budget still rolls on, garnering up over a trillion dollars every two years.  It’s somewhere between 1.023 trillion and 1.31 trillion dollars every two years.  And every year it goes by and the black budget is unchecked and unaccounted for, it’s just subverting our country.  That’s number one.

Number two is that these underground military—  First of all, if there was something like a nuclear war, or, or there was a definite enemy out there where we were going to be under attack, like from China or someplace like that, I could see maybe a couple of dozen underground bases for government so it could theoretically rise up like the Phoenix out of the ashes.  Well, not 131 of these.  And if you were going to so-called round people up and put them in prison camps, what better prison camp than underground, where nobody knows where it is anyway?  So, once again, these underground bases are most likely being planned as underground prison camps and slave-labor factories for the New World Order.

New World Order, by the way, it’s getting—and I’m probably the only person ever talking about this—the New World Order is taking—and the United Nations—is taking its orders from, believe it or not, these more powerful outer-space alien entities—we might call them the large greys or the small greys.  Sinister forces indeed.  And you might want to say, “Well, gee, how come we don’t see more of this kind of thing?”  Well, you can just imagine.  If you’re only being told five percent or less of the truth, that isn’t very much to go on.  That’s one thing.  Another thing is, you don’t find very many people coming up here and letting you have hands-on experience.  I’m going to try and do this to you.

(38:00)  However, I do ask you to go out and do your homework and keep doing it.  Don’t necessarily believe in what I’m saying, but get out there and talk to people.  Whether it’s just a couple of neighbors or friends or something, get out there and talk.  Because one will tell two, and two will tell four, and pretty soon you have a whole room full of people that are in the know.  And then from there, wonders can work.  Other than that, as as far as changing the black budget and these clandestine programs, public opinion is only going to do that, and it’s going to take millions of us.  But we have to be informed.  And to do that, we have to be doing what we’re doing now—gathering and talking.  And, of course, most of us are adults and can weed out fact from fiction.  Most of us are responsible adults and know the difference between fact and fiction, and how to use it or how to abuse it.  So, we therefore have to continue to keep studying and keep talking.

(39:30)  If there’s just me out there—believe it or not, there aren’t very many people like myself out there talking.  I’ve given over 30 talks in the United States, Canada, Japan, I went over to England—well, I went into Japan kind of illegal, came back the same weekend.  They flew me in and out, but I gave a talk to a number of their execs, and they were very interested, indeed.  Now if this was all a bunch of poppycock and hooey and poo-poo, I might— I wouldn’t be listened to, be given an audience by these people.  But I have. But (there have been) thirteen attempts on my life since the first of this year.  There’s a number of you ladies present so I won’t (give you gory details), but Al has seen some of the wounds, and there’s few other people that have been to a few of my other lectures and they can attest that I have been shot, I’ve been run off the road, I’ve been pushed off the road, I’ve been mostly shot at and that kind of thing.  But I’ve been in hand-to-hand combat with some of these people, and once again, I’m not in the best of shape anymore but I still know how to handle myself.

And I’m just about ready to wrap things up here.  But just basically wanted to give you an overview of what’s happening, and if we have any questions, we can start asking a few questions.  Okay, here’s a gentleman way over here.  Would you please speak up?  Loud.

(41:00)  Yes, I was involved in a—  In 1979, in August, late August of 1979, I was involved working through Los Alamos laboratories at Dulce, New Mexico, in what’s now known as the Alien-Human War.  Sixty-six Secret Service agents, government workers, geologists and the like, I almost bit the dust; I could have been number 67.  Lost their lives that day because the government lied and knew full well what was underneath.  And what we’d done is, out in the desert there, we had drilled four— in a period of a couple of days we had drilled four of these holes that went down several thousand feet.  And one of these holes kept bringing up dirty dust and putrifying odors and broken-off machine bits, and other kinds of things like that.  And boring machines as well as lasers came up damaged.  And there was a probe that was sent down, and that came up totally missing.  And so people were sent down there, and I was one of the people.  And when I got down there, of course the odor was— and remember, I was in a space-suit-type environment.  All I had was a small tool belt with special sensors, and a small rock hammer and a rock sack for mineral specimens, and those kinds of things like that.  And I had my little pistol.  And being an engineer, I didn’t have time to carry a big hunk of pistol like most of these Green Berets carry, stuff like that, Black Berets.  I carried a little Walther PPK with a nine-shot clip.  As soon as they got down this hole, standing about from me this gentleman over here in the front row, about 10 or so feet away, seven feet away, something like hat, was one of these seven-foot tall, stinking alien guys.  And I didn’t waste any time; I said, “I’m not fiddling with you guys,” and “poom,” away you go.

And I had— I was one of the rare few that had been alerted that this may or may not occur, and so basically was given ET training, but a lot of these other people weren’t.  And we were— in fact, it was asked, “Are there aliens in the area?”  And of course, the big question was, “No.”  And that was a big lie.  And of course, 66 people died that day.  I have a big hole in my chest.  I lost— my lung was literally burned out of me, my fingers burned off of me, my toenails burned off of me.  My skin was— and I was in radiation isolation therapy for 400-plus days.  My bones were vitrified or burnt.  I was cooked.  I managed to survive here telling you something about it today.

But other than that, I’m the only talking survivor.  There are only two other survivors and they’re nursing homes up in Canada.  Canada refuses to allow the United States officials to talk to them and they’re in very bad shape, indeed.  One of them can’t talk and the other one doesn’t want to.  So they’re regarded as Canadian heroes, so they’re being kept by Canada.

Okay, this fellow over here.  Speak up loud.  Actually, yes, there’s several.  In fact, as I was coming to this talk, I was supposed to be here by plane but there was a subsequent foul-up.  Anyway, I drove all the way and did it in one day.  But as I was coming over, over up near Cheyenne there, I know that the military, the Air Force and the Army are building a so-called new boot camp, prison camp, right up in Cheyenne, Brandon.  And I was here three months ago—that wasn’t there.  So it’s something brand new.  In Colorado, yes, there’s about four underground bases, one being at Denver International Air Base.  I call it air base, space port or whatever you want to call it.  Denver International Airport.  No wonder your luggage gets lost!  There are eight levels underneath the airport tarmac there or cementmac.  And so those bags could be there for a long time.  Why,  just imagine if this was the instantly turned 30 or more million years ago, those bags can very well be the same way!  So, yeah, there’s, there’s a number of them.  And I wish I had a map with me.  In fact, in subsequent talks, I’ll have a map, which will be put on the on the overhead.  In fact, my next talk, I plan to have just that.  I had planned to bring a map here and had all the latitudes and longitudes of all the bases, and I can’t do that.  That would be a nice jail sentence for me, so I didn’t bring it.  So, but other than that, I’ll have that all researched for you.

Yes, this this one.  Yes. there as far as there being an inner Earth, a hollow earth or anything like this. No, I’ve never run into anything like that.  However, Al Bielek has been on these tunnels trains, better part of Mach II, going from coast to coast an hour and a half—faster than any jetplane and we got, including the SST, or thereabouts, the same rapid speed.  But I helped build a lot of these tunnels, and all of the underground mountain or military bases are connected—all of them.  All 131 of them.  They’re connected both by road—not a big freeway under there, but that’s at least a two- to a four-lane road; rather narrow lanes, but they’re there—and there are also high-speed magneto-levitron train tunnels.

Yes, this lady over here.  Stand up and speak up, please.  What levels of military personnel know about this?  Most of the levels of the military know about this, especially the higher levels.  Officer— higher officer levels.  The enlisted, I’m sure, don’t, or are basically kept in the dark like we are.

(49:00)  This fella right here with the hat.  Well, there’s 131 of them in the United States, 127 of them in the lower 48 (states).  There’s some in Canada; I’m not counting those.  There’s some some in northern Mexico; I’m not counting those, either.  They average about four-and-a-quarter cubic miles hollowed out underground, an average depth of 5,700 feet underground.  Average cost 17 to 31 billion dollars each.  They employ anywhere from 1,800 to 10,000 people.  Some very large ones now being built in Sweden, one of which is reputed to be 30 cubic miles.  It will take five years to build that one, at a cost of about two trillion dollars.  And that’s all being supplied by the United Nations.

Dulce underground base, site of the first Joint U.S.-Alien Biogenetics Laboratory

(50:00)  Yes, anybody over here?  This gentleman.  Speak up, please.  Okay, you want to know exact locations of all these.  Well, for where all of your Army, Marine Corps, Navy, and Air Force bases are, there with all this present—not the ones closed in, by the way, the closed down bases are now being used for gasoline storage and equipment storage and these kind of things.  So they’re not really closed down yet.  Boot camps and all this kind of stuff.  So-called prisoner camps and these kind of things.  Right now, our police, for instance, are being trained by the Air Force and the Army Intelligence in martial law research, as they call it.  How dare they call it by that name?  Where these are there, where every one of these strategic bases are, in Colorado, in and around Denver, there’s three of them, and they’re fairly small.  Some of these bases are only maybe 2,000 to 3,000 feet in depth.  Some of them were built a long time ago, back 35, 40 years ago, and they’re only maybe 500 feet, and they’re mostly for equipment storage.

Denver and then there’s Fort Collins.  There’s also the Colorado Springs area.  By the way, Colorado Springs is a kind of a famous area; Nikola Tesla’s laboratories were in Colorado Springs.  Need I say more?  I’ll leave that up to Al Bielek.  As far as Nellis Air Force Base, there’s nine underground mountain bases, and Nellis Air Force Base—that’s in Nevada; it’s north of Las Vegas.  There’s going to be a UFO show and conference in Mesquite here later on this month, and that’s up very close to Area 51.  That whole area— by the way, the state of Nevada, is 81 percent managed or owned by the federal government.  Land is either restricted or run by the federal government.  That’s why they have— there’s groups rising as we speak, dealing with the problem very vociferously, and senators are now getting involved.  So, evidently, waking up is occurring.

Yes this gentleman over here.  Speak up, please.  Okay.  Yes, they are.  The gentleman asked, are these tunnels connected to large caverns?  Yes, these large bases are basically like this coliseum.  Everything’s underground.  Everything’s a city underground.  Most of these bases both have military bases, and they have all the accoutrements of life.  Remember, each one of these costs quite a bundle of money, and and some of it in our tax money, but most of it in clandestine approaches, and that’s definitely undermining the country.

(54:00)  Yes.  Some of them have difficulty in understanding our language; it’s too slow to them.  If you’ve heard whale songs or bird chirpings at high speed, it’s about what these aliens sound like audibly to us, so it’s a bunch of gibberish.  Yes, they’ve slowly actually broken it down: there’s 11 civilizations of aliens using this planet all the time, all of which are known by the U.S. military.  Nine of which are not very good—they’re pretty bad news; two of which are benevolent.  But the benevolent ones have supposedly left; they have their own little war of sorts, especially the Pleiadean groups and what-not like that.  Of which Val Thor was repudiated to be a Venusian, but other people assert he looks more like a Pleiadean.  He looks like a normal human except he’s got six fingers and toes, he’s got one oversized lung, he’s got two hearts—he’s got all kinds of weird stuff.  Bones are bigger.

Commander Valiant Thor

(55:00)  Yeah.  The man asked, do I tie in the alien agenda to the New World Order?  Yes, sir, one hundred percent.  I can elaborate briefly.  The New World Order right now, basically, is dismantling countries, governments—telling governments not to war with each other anymore, basically, so that looks good on the outside.  They’re taking their orders directly from the aliens, who’ve got their own timetable.  They want the One World Order because they want the planet for themselves.  Of course, you’ve often heard of the term Global 2000; that’s a global sinister plot, or has been a group of sinister plots, to produce biological weaponry to reduce or thin out the population of the planet by five-sixths, or roughly five of six billion people, enslaving the rest to work willy-nilly with the so-called people of the New World Order.

(56:00)  Now the— another peculiar thing is, the alien agenda is not really well believed nor understood by a lot of these one-worlders.  They don’t believe it; they think they’ve been singled out for their own glory, and what they don’t know is they’re just another human being, and according to the negative or bad aliens, they’re just another— we’re considered bags of food to them.  They don’t eat us, like we think of a cannibal eating a hunk of meat, but they use our glandular secretions as part of their food base—our blood and our glandular secretions like adrenochrome and other kinds of things like this.  And, in fact, there have been— the Atlanta Center for Disease Control has figured out ways that we can combat this, and this kind of thing like that.  It might be where these new designer diseases like AIDS and Ebola, Hantavirus, and all these kinds of things have come up out of nowhere, and these diseases almost have a mind of their own.

Yes, this lady here.  Okay, the lady asked, is the tunnel-building having an effect with earthquakes?  Yes, it could very easily be, although you gotta remember, a lot of these underground bases are constantly being repaired, and so a lot of people have to be hired.

(58:00)  As far as the U.S. government, the second part of her question was, is the U.S. government modifying our weather?  Yes, that’s an affirmative.  The U.S. government’s been working with the Russians for at least since 1972, and maybe as early as 1966, on weather modification and the well known fact.  And it’s well employed.  And by the way, they can literally weather-modify a hurricane or a tornado out of existence.  And the reason they don’t do it is pretty obvious. Or they could actually send a plane inside of a hurricane, for instance, that would blow off an atmospheric bomb or a shock-wave bomb in the eye of the thing, and it would completely dissipate.  Well, they don’t do this, of course.  There’s probably other reasons for that—see which way it goes, or what kind of havoc, and how we can study the havoc, and we go from there.

This fellow, way in the back, in the black.  How do we learn more about our general topic?  Well, there’s this particular fellow, his name is Richard Souter, PhD.  He wrote a book recently: Underground Bases and Tunnels: What is the Government Trying to Hide?  That is one book.  Then we have another.  Here’s a Popular Science article, “Secret Air Base.”  The government doesn’t want you to know that Groom Lake— supposedly Groom Lake doesn’t exist.  Well, I guess if it doesn’t exist, then me talking about it, I guess I can’t be arrested or anything; I’m just full of poppycock here.  Well, editor of Popular— one of the editors of Popular Science who put this article out is now in federal prison.

(1:00:00)  Then there’s a book called Stealth Fighter Pilot.  These books are available, I got this one at Dalton’s.  This one actually was sent to me by the publisher.  I did some test-piloting, and the only thing I test piloted, I would run the aircraft back and forth on the runway, the special runways we built at Groom Lake.  Here’s a picture of me in uniform.  And I can go on.  And these publications are out now and they’re available.

Yes, this lady over here.  I can’t hear you.  Okay.  Okay, that’s kind of a mixed-bag question there.  She asked, with martial law being called, will precious metals and all these kinds of things.  First of all, hoarding anything will be outlawed.  If you hoard food, have a radio, any way of communicating, stash gasoline, these kind of things, you would just be rounded up and that would be the end of you.  Martial Law is martial law.  Martial law is dictatorship of the worst form, or one of the worst forms.  And her other part of the question, if I got it right, was when is the alien takeover?  Well, the alien takeover is right now and probably will be for some— probably in the next 20, maybe 30, 40 years, will be basically in the background.  The idea is to get the One World beast-like government Order in place and to thin out the population of the planet.  And then, of course, then all heck will break loose from then on.  And whether it is— I don’t often mix Bible and talk, but some people have alerted, well, this is already mentioned in the Bible, and all this kind of stuff.  Well, that may be, but all I can tell you is I’ve been face-to-face with one of these sinister characters, or a couple of them, and the thing lased, and most people would— just the shock of them seeing such a thing would cause them to not be in very healthy mode, frame of mind, physical as well as mental.

(1:03:00)  This man here in the blue cap.  Oh, it’s a combination.  What technology is used to build these underground bases?  Well, we have lasers.  They can drill out, or basically deflagrate or melt out, a tunnel seven miles a day.  And that tunnel is 28 feet wide, 28 feet high.  You’ve been told about drilling and boring machines and a very slow quarter of a mile a day—most of that went out in World War II.  Most of that’s old World War I or World War II-era materials.  And once again, you’ve been badly lied to.  I can hardly believe—  First of all, I’ve worked on public engineering projects, and we do better in grinding up road beds and re-laying them down at the rate of four miles a day, and supposedly that doesn’t exist.  Well, I worked on one in the state of Oregon just few months ago.  And we built a tunnel for— a sewage tunnel and what-not and like that.  It wasn’t very big, it’s about six feet across and about—  Drilled right through solid rock right to base of under one of the hills in Portland, for their new light rail.  Did that in two days.  But it was a complex— it was a small complex tunnel.  It was big enough for a man to crawl through and inspect.  And I was one of the people that inspected, so, yeah.

(1:04:20)  What technology?  A lot of this is alien technology readapted for our own use, but a lot of it is our own ingenuity too.  So you can bet—  How can you tell alien technology?  Well, anything that’s just absolutely outlandish, like taking an oxyacetylene welding torch and trying to cut into this metal and getting nowhere.  Obviously would be metals research, aircraft research and the like, different tools and products, many times the hardness of diamond, or known hardened substances, substances like borazon.  Obviously, that’s nothing that we came up with on our own, but we could have, over a several-hundred-year period.

(1:05:00)  But you’ve got to remember, too, that the military technology is outstripping the public-sector technology at the rate of 44 to 45 years of technology for every calendar year, every 12-month calendar year here.  So, every year going by, by this time in 1996, the military technology will be roughly 45 years more advanced than where we are today.  So it’s quite possible that way back in 1943, the U.S. Navy not only caused a ship to disappear, it literally disappeared, and reappeared (the USS Eldridge).  Basically, military technology right now is about 1,200 years more advanced than public state technology.  Computer technology right now, it’s off the scale.  I can’t tell you.  It’s just right now, and employing just in black jet and stealth aircraft, the new computers are so completely advanced that we couldn’t get them in the public sector for maybe another 40 or 50 years.

(1:06:30)  Yes, this lady here.  Well, the lady asked, with the slave-labor camps, are the old, the infirm, the handicapped, are they going to be executed?  Will there be executions?  You can bet your bottom dollar there actually will be these things.  I wish I knew more, but I don’t.  I have my own agenda to kind of keep up and talk about.  But other than that, yes, I would imagine so.  If you look at all the 39 prison camps that are presently built—and they’re called boot camps, by the way.  And of course, these new trains that they have that have 143 shackle placements per train: why, they’re a scary thing, indeed.  And you know what they’re called?  They’re called United Nations prisoner transfer cars.  Well, that’s an appropriate name, I guess.

Well, we got to wrap it up here—they’re telling me it’s time.  I’ll take one more question; this lady over here.  No, brainwash— they don’t brainwash you.  How do they brainwash 18,000 people that are working?  Well, you sign this little piece of paper saying you work or you go to prison for the rest of your days.  Or you’re not going to be taking home a paycheck of about anywhere from $4,000 to $40,000 per month, depending upon your position.  $40,000 a month’s a lot of petunias.

Okay, I gotta wrap it up here, folks, so I’ll be over in Al Bielek’s booth.  I think it’s over in booth number 125.  I could take other questions there and let you take a look at artifacts.  And once again, on these artifacts and the read-through minutes, don’t handle them,  just look at them.  Thank you very much.

Full transcript of Denver Colorado talk in August, 1995:  http://www.bahaistudies.net/asma/last_lecture_by_phil_schneider.pdf   (download)

Al Bielek

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