Exraterrestrials and Illuminati: An Interview With Stewart Swerdlow

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Ohio Exopolitics, hosted by Mark Snyder
April 17, 2011

Our esteemed guest tonight is Stewart Swerdlow, a gifted hyperspace intuitive who focuses his consciousness beyond time and space to determine your foundational mind-pattern upon which all your life experiences are based.  His great-uncle, Yacov Sverdlov, was the first president of the Soviet Union, and his grandfather helped form the Communist Party in the United States in the 1930s.  He was recruited for specific government mind-control experiments, including 13 years at the Montauk Project, which enhanced his natural abilities.

Stewart, a linguist who speaks ten languages, is an expert in de-programming, in determining which Illuminati mind-patterns are embedded in the mind-patterns of any individual.  His mission is to help others heal themselves in a positive way, thus avoiding the negativity he experienced.  He lives in Michigan.

Starting right out, do you think the United States will eventually be under martial law?

In my opinion, we’re almost there.  And it will just take one major catastrophe, either artificially induced by a weapon, or a natural catastrophe, which could also be artificially induced, and that will push us over the edge towards martial law.

Do you believe the United States is going to be split up at some point, and at what point do you that this could happen?

Well, I think it’s already in process, and the so-called president that we have at the moment is doing a very good job of dismantling the United States in the formation of a North American Union.  And when we see this happen, the country as we know it will be split into various sections.  There will be east of the Mississippi headquartered in Atlanta, and west of the Mississippi headquartered in Denver.  And there will be various other regions sub-locations or regions that will be developed out of the existing country.

Let me ask you about our president.  I don’t get anything from our president.  Is there a reason for that?

You mean energetically you’re not getting anything from him?


You know, he is severely mind-controlled.  He’s a very programmed person with a made-up history.  He’s basically one of the biggest scams that’s ever been perpetrated on the American public, and in my opinion, I think it’s a bigger scam than 9-11.

And I have heard you say that there are five gigantic concentration camps in the United States, and that each of them can hold up to five million people.

Yes, that’s true, and they’re in various sections of the United States.  Most of them are in the south and the western part of the country.  And they refer to them— from the Montauk days they referred to them as the re-education center.  And so, basically, those who are dissidents, or those who are creating civil disorder, or going against the rules, they will be sent to those places for re-education.  And either they will come out re-educated, or they will vanish from sight.

Stewart, before the show you stated that the moon landing was a hoax.  And I know in the Billy Meyer contact notes it says that, as well as John Lear, and I wondered if you could elaborate on that.

Yeah.  You know, the U.S. and Soviet space programs began long before the public saw these rockets taking off.  We had people on the moon and on Mars back in the 1950s with the use of alien technology.  And of course, the governments have been in contact with advanced alien cultures for many, many decades.  What technology is given to the public is actually 50 to 100 years or more behind what the government actually uses for itself.  So, much of the space program that we see from NASA is really for public consumption.  It’s really all staged, so that there is a sequence of events that will lead up to a certain point, that people can follow in a so-called logical manner.  But behind the scenes, there’s another space program that’s very different from what we’ve seen on television.

And with what races has our government been in contact?

Wow.  There have been so many.  You know, there are hundreds of billions of galaxies out there, and trillions of civilizations, literally.  For the most part, our government has been in contact with a few hundred different races, but there is only a handful that they really deal with intimiately.

I’ve also heard you talk about that the United States is going to be split up.  Can you tell us a little bit more about that?

Yeah.  The whole purpose of what we see happening politically now is that there is a need to dismantle superpowers so that all can be incorporated or assimilated into a New World Order and a global government under one single control.  And of course, in order to do that, you have to remove national identity, you have to remove patriotism.  And so what we see happening in the United States now is the full methodical dismantling of our independence.  And so that the first step is a union, a North American Union with Canada and Mexico, which is already in progress, and that will incorporate, as per Hillary Clinton, even the Central American countries and the Caribbean.  And that will essentially lead to an American union, that will be both North and South America, as per President Reagan’s statement in the 1980s, when he said he envisions a political and economic union from Alaska to Argentina.

And that’s what we see happening.  In fact, much of South American and Central America uses the U.S. dollar: in fact it’s the national currency of Ecuador, and Panama, and getting to be Costa Rica.  So, we’re seeing a unification of the economy and the politics.  And as it progresses forward in the next year, we will see this union take place—there will be a North American parliament, North American legislation, and that will then break things up.  Because as natural catastrophes occur, terrorist acts occur, there will be a breakup in the various regions in the Americas, so that there’s a re-ordering, if you will, of states, provinces, etc., very much like we see in the EU.  If we look at the EU and we see how countries have been broken up and reorganized, that’s bascially the pattern that we can think of for the United States in the near future.

And I’ve heard you say that thousands of years ago, the reptilians decided to bring an end to the United States in 2003. So, are the reptilians, then, behind their schedule?

Well, a lot has happened that has thrown the schedule off. And I have talked a lot in the last couple of years about what’s going on in the Kuiper Belt. Where there is a massing of a fleet, with races that have never been seen before from places that have been unknown. And the Illuminati have had to re-arrange their schedule in order to accomodate the possible threat from that area.

I’ve also heard you say that— I don’t know if all of our presidents are actually shape-shifters, or have more of this reptilian DNA than the average person.

Well, those that are of the Illuminati families do have a higher percentage of reptilian DNA.  And all of us on Earth—all seven billion people—are hybrids.  We all have a certain percentage of reptilian DNA within our bodies.  But those who are in the Illuminati have a much higher percentage, and those that are at the 50/50-split mark are able to shape-shift.  Now, I would say very few of the actual presidents were able to do that.  In fact, I think hardly any of them were able to with the exception of Bush junior and senior.  But they do have the reptilian religion; they follow a reptilian heirarchy and culture, and that’s what the programming is that they imposed on the population, in order to continue this civilization and culture without deviations and changes.

Do you have some inside information on Bush junior and senior that makes you know that they can shape-shift?

Well, of course I didn’t see that myself, but the people that I have spoken to who were insiders to their rituals did say that they saw them shape-shift.

And I know you worked at Montauk for awhile.  When you were at Montauk, were you ever able to see a reptilian yourself?

Yes. In fact, I believe I did write about it.  At Montauk—which, I was there from 1970 to 1983—there were reptilians.  Now, there were not a lot of them there.  In fact, I don’t remember seeing too many of them over those years.  But they were there, and I know that a lot of the technology came from them and from Sirius-A.  And they were very interested in the effects of mind-control, and programming on children, and on those whose genetics were not conducive to the mind-control and programming.  So, this was a very big effort to see how they can calibrate it to accomodate all the people on Earth equally.

I’ve also heard you talk about the Kennedy assassination.  Were the Illuminati behind that?

Of course.  In fact, all of these global rituals that we see on the news are orchestrated way in advance.  And it’s quite detailed, and there have been books written about the symbolism and the ritualism that occurred at the Kennedy assassination.  But yes, definitely, it was all staged.  And something that has come to be known as the Kennedy Syndrome, where that family decided that they were going to take over the Illuminati agenda and make it their own.  And, of course, that was unacceptable and they were eliminated.

I’ve heard you talk about these hand-signs that the Illuminati use.  Can you tell us a little bit about that?

Yes, it’s kind of like a big brotherhood.  Of course, the famous sign that they use, the sign of the devil with their hands.  All the presidents used it at their inaugurations; even Michelle Obama used it on the front of, I think it was Vogue Magazine, when they had a picture of her on the cover.  All of them use it. And it’s interesting to me because they sometimes say on the news, “Well that’s the Texas sports salute,” or they make some kind of explanation for it.  But if you go through history, and you look at the pictures of political figures and even entertainers over the decades, you’ll see a tremendous percentage using these hand signals in their photographs.

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You have said that the government can use TVs and computers to watch a person when they are at home.  Is this true?

Yes, all electromagnetic devices, whether it’s a television, a computer, a cell phone, can be used to transmit satellite waves, mind-control waves, programming waves.  And it’s two-way.  So, they can see you while you’re doing your work; they know every keystroke you have on your computer, they know what channels you’re watching on your television.  And that’s why everything went digital recently, to make it easier to monitor all of this.  But even your microwave oven—which is why I threw mine away—even when it’s turned off, it’s still on.  And the carrier waves go right through into your home, and even the electricity coursing through your electrical system can have carrier waves of mind-controlling programming.

I heard you on your “Blueblood, Trueblood” CD, where you predicted all of the wars that we would have.  And I think that CD was made before 2003, and you talked about Iraq and Afghanistan and Libya.  Can you elaborate on that?

Yes.  You know, it’s part of the agenda.  You know, when I was in Montauk, I learned it back in the seventies.  I knew exactly what the plan was and how they were going to do it.  And they stage it to look like it’s an uprising, a revolution, what have you, so that they can change the government into something more accomodating for the New World Order and global government.  And that’s what we’re seeing happening now.  You know, these people in Libya and Egypt and Tunisia and Yemen, Bahrain—these are not uprisings by the people.  This is not to overthrow evil dictators, as the media would have you believe.  But, in fact, it’s orquestrated by the NSA and by the Mossad and by MI-5 in order to get rid of the governments that no longer serve a purpose and have to be changed, so that they can be incorporated into a global government.

Are the Illuminati directly under the authority of these reptilian beings?

That’s a very interesting question, and there was a time when the answer would be yes.  But I would say, in the last 30 years or so, the Illuminati have decided that they’d like to create their own galactic empire with Earth as their headquarters, and in fact are going against the original Draco Empire agenda to incorporate Earth into their Draco Empire.  And in fact, they’re turning against the original reptilians for their own creation of their own empire.

The events in Japan: have those been generated artificially by the Illuminati?

Yes.  And even I wrote about this in my Blue Blood, True Blood book, where I said the Japanese royal family is part of a 14th family, which is despised by the main 13 Illuminati families, and that they sought to destroy Japan and that they would sink it into the ocean.  And I had written about that many years ago.  And as we see happening now, Japan, it is sinking.  That last earthquake sank the main island a meter down and eight feet across, and this is just the beginning.  We’re going to see, shortly, another—at least one or two—major earthquakes of the same magnitude that will be very destructive.  And these future earthquakes will be centered further south than where they were located.  You can expect one to be centered near Tokyo and another one centered much further south, almost near Osaka.

So, there’s really only one government, and it’s controlled by the Illuminati, and these countries are artificially created.  So, what we’re seeing is kind of a war between the factions and the Illuminati?

Yeah.  You know, if you throw reptiles or snakes into a pit, they don’t help each other get out of the pit: they kill each other to see who’s left.  So, even though they’re all working towards the same goal, and they’re theoretically on the same side, they are fighting amongst themselves as well.  I like to use the analogy.  It’s kind of like a corporation with a board of directors, but only one can be the chairman of the board.  And so they’ll backstab each other to see who can get that position.  And unfortunately, they use countries and people as their chess pieces in order to accomplish this.

You know, I find this very disturbing.  Do you find it the same way?  I mean, it’s depressing to me.

Of course it’s disturbing.  You know, people should not live like this, of course.  But I always say in my work that we all need to take responsibility.  It’s not that we’re— we’re not the innocent victims: we are willing participants.  So, we have to look at mankind, humankind, and say, okay, there’s this species mind-pattern that has victimization.  And when the species has a victimization mentality, it will attract oppressors and tyrants.  So, if we want this all to stop, we each individually and collectively need to work on changing our mind-patterns, removing the victimization.  And when we do, the Illuminati can no longer exist.

That’s and interesting concept.  So, we’re attracting this destruction because of our thought-patterns.

Exactly correct.  And I like to use analogies.  Thoughts are like film, mind is the projector, and physical reality is the screen.  So, if we don’t like the movie that’s playing around us, we have to change the film, which is the way we think.  And if we each do that, it will turn the tide and what is projected out.

(23:10) . . .

(23:45) Stewart, you have so much information.  And you learned all of this when you spent 13 years at Montauk.  How did they do this?  Did they sit you down in classrooms and teach you our galactic history, and stuff like that?

Yes.  And by the way, not all of this I learned from Montauk.  I learned, obviously, subsequent to those time periods, other information from other sources.  But during my time in Montauk, yes, we were indoctrinated.  Because they wanted us to feel happy or content with what we were doing, they told us that human beings were incapable of controlling their own destiny because they were considered low-level.  And so, what we were doing, and what the powers there were trying to accomplish, was actually going to help human-kind survive, because they were like little children that were helpless and needed a higher power, or stronger power to direct them.  So, that’s what we were told at the time.

So, what about the stuff on the Georgia guidestones that say 500 million people?  Is that true?  I mean, I think we could probably have a much larger population than that if we were efficient and we used the correct technologies.  And I think we could probably have a fairly large population and still not destroy the planet.  What are your thoughts on that?

Well, I agree with you.  You know, I travel all over the world, and I see vast, vast territories on this planet that are totally uninhabited.  They’re completely empty, with all kinds of natural resources in them.  In fact, most of our planet is empty.  The seven billion people are crammed into a limited area.  In fact, you fly across the country, the United States, and you’ll see most areas look empty.  This planet, if properly prepared and properly managed, could handle two or three times the population that we have now without a problem.  It actually could be very fertile.  But we are being purposely restricted and purposely put into fear mode, so that we have to acquiesce to the rules and regulations that are imposed upon us.

But as far as— I’ve heard for many decades out stories that the Illuminati want to destroy the population.  Patently untrue. The Illuminati did not work for thousands of years and spend huge amounts of resources and money to build a slave population to then destroy it.  That doesn’t make any sense whatsoever.  What they did intend to do at some point is to re-distribute the population to other worlds for colonization, and for expansion of what I mentioned earlier as their new empire.

So, who is behind the population reduction?

Well, it’s the Illuminati families, of course, but the reduction is specific.  It’s not a global destruction of people; they don’t want to reduce the total population significantly.  They want to remove those who are considered un-programmable or problems for the agenda.

I would think that people like me would probably be in trouble, then.

Well, we are in that club of problem-makers, but I would rather be in that club than in the herd of people who just go along with everything.

And I’ve heard you say that human life represents about 70 percent of the life in the galaxy.  And I think that makes perfect sense.  There are a lot of people that can’t wrap their mind around that.  To me that makes perfect sense.  If we have a sample of a galactic population, and we have one planet out of however many are in our solar system, nine or twelve, and it’s populated with human beings, to me it’s logical to assume that 70 percent of the life in the galaxy or something, some high percentage like that, is probably human.  Can you comment on that?

Yes.  It’s also because we have a common source in the Lyraen star system, which was the home of all human beings, for all intents and purposes.  And so, the life-form of humanity, the shape that we have, had a common origin.  Now, there are humanoid forms that are very much like us, which I consider part of that 70 percent of the general humanoid form.  They don’t look exactly like us, but they’re very similar to us.  And of course, then, there’s another 25 percent that’s reptilian or reptilian-like.  Five percent which is other: there’s insect type, there are all kinds of beings out there—everything you can imagine exists somewhere.

Now, the reptilians.  Generally speaking, they live longer, I assume, they’re physically more powerful.  Are they more intelligent as well?

Well, yeah; a matter of opinion here.  As far as being long-lived, yes, they do.  And the reason is that they have a higher copper content in their blood—that’s why they’re called blue-bloods—and those who have a higher copper content in their blood are much more disease-resistant, and they can carry a lot more immunity in their system.  So, they do live relatively longer than the average mamalian being.  But, you know, the human DNA really is immortal—it can go on indefinitely.  It’s only the mind-pattern that causes illness to be created in the body.  And so if we unlock that 97 percent of our DNA, which scientists call junk, but which is really the blueprint of the God-mind within us, if we unlock even a percentage of that, we could literally achieve physical immortality.

You know, that’s very interesting that you said that our thoughts are very much related to our health.  Could you elaborate?

Sure, there’s a flow-chart that I like to use.  And I always start with thoughts, because all we are is thought, energy, electromagnetic thinking.  And when that descends into a physical reality, it attracts the atomic structure that’s free-floating in that reality.  And the atomic structure creates a pattern around the electromagnetic thought, kind of like a magnet attracting metals.  And the atomic structure forms into a pattern of protein bases, which become the DNA, which is the blueprint of the body.  So, literally, what you think is what you physically become.  So, if you change the way you think, and change the patterns, then the DNA will have to accomodate that, and you can create any kind of physical manifestion that you wish.

So, positive thinking is incredibly important.

Absolutely.  And Russian scientists have determined that the structure of our DNA, or the way the molecules form within it, is almost identical to language syntax.  Which is why you have to be very careful of what you verbalize, because the words are energy, and affects the DNA in your body.

Do human beings have the power where their thoughts can literally affect reality?

Yeah, there are people who already do that; that’s been proven for many, many years now.  And again, going back to the Russians, because they really were advanced in studying all of this, especially in the Soviet Union, they developed Cryllian photography, which literally showed the energy field in and around bodies, living and inanimate, and what you thought changed the way that energy flowed.  So absolutely, what you think affects not only yourself, but everything around you.

So, do you meditate, or do you have a ritual that you perform to control your thoughts?

Well, as my work will demonstrate, I always level, where it’s pure thought, pure energy.  Yes, I do meditations, I do visualizations, I do prayer—everything in energy, and if you know how to work with the energy, you can create anything that you desire.

I want to shift back to the reptilians; they actually colonized Earth about a million years ago, is that correct?

Approximately, yes.

Was it the reptilians that built a lot of the monolithic structures we see, like the great pyramid, or the great stones at Pumapuncu?

Those monuments that you mentioned were actually built by, or with Sirius-A technology, and also helped by the Atlanteans on Earth hundreds of thousands of years ago.  And again, all technology came from elsewhere.  It was not native to this planet—it was brought from somewhere else.  And the highest technology that we know of, it comes from the Sirius-A star-system.

And what civilization is in Sirius A?

Well, they’re called Sirians.  Sirius was originally considered to be a binary star-system, Sirius-A and B, but in fact there is a Sirius-C star, so it’s actually a trinary system.  But they had a high influence on the Atlantean and ancient Egyptian cultures on our planet and were behind much of the pyramid development.

Were they human beings from Sirius-A, B and C?

These are humanoid, but they are not considered to be human beings, no.  They have a different structure, they have a very different origin, and in fact their origin is unknown as far as how they developed.  It’s believed they might have come from a different universe or parallel universe.

But how did they look?

They are about anywhere from seven to nine feet tall.  They have very large oval-shaped heads—they come to a pointy chin, pointy nose.  They have very large blue eyes, very aquiline nose, very, very thin body—-almost that you would consider emaciated—and very white skin.  And they, when they stretch out their arms, out to the sides, they would look like an Ankh, which is why the Egyptians had that hieroglyph, based on a Sirian structure.

So, these Sirians, our government must know about this.  Are they ever going to reveal the true history of Earth?

Well, you know, they’ve never revealed the truth yet.  So as long as the Illuminati are in power, everything they reveal will be tainted with what they want you to know think.  They often reveal information which is really disinformation, and that is what I call a lie sandwich: it’s the truth in the middle and two lies on the outside, or there’s two truths on the outside and a lie in the middle.  But either way, you get hooked on the one truth part, and so you believe the whole thing.

Let me shift gears to Mars.  I’ve had guests on the show say that there was a civilzation on Mars, maybe 200,000 years ago.  Can you tell us about that?

Yes, in fact, I’ve written about that in my Blueblood, Trueblood book.  Mars was once very Earth-like, with oceans and an atmosphere.  And when the Lyrean civilization was attacked and destroyed by the Draco, there was a contingent of them that colonized Mars, because that was very habitable at the time.  And that’s why we have structures there on the surface.  And in fact, even now, science is saying that there were once oceans on Mars.  And in the Martian spring and summer, you can actually see, if you have a good telescope, green plants growing in the northern hemisphere of Mars, so there is life there still.  And there was a very great civilization that was there.  Of course, the Draco destroyed that as well, and some of the refugees from Mars came to Earth and started the Sumerian civilization.

Do the Dracos still plan on destroying the human race, then?

They are not planning to destroy the race—their agenda is to assimilate the races that they come across, and to blend them into their empire.  So that’s really what they have in mind, except that the agenda has been thwarted by the Illuminati, who have decided to make their own agenda, so that mommy and daddy Draco have to [UI] them.

But in the other places in our galaxy, are there still wars between the Draco and our ancestors?

Well, the ancestors are dead.  But I will say that the galaxy is a very dangerous place.  And unfortunately, despite what new-agers believe about aliens, there’s no [UI] out there.  The evidence shows, even from when I was in Montauk they showed there’s war after war after war.  And the Sirians were always at war with somebody out there, and so were the Rigelians and so were the Draco—it’s a very dangerous place.  I’d say that our galaxy is a very bad neighborhood.

Do you consider the Illuminati more oppressive or the reptilians?

That’s a very good question.  Whether it’s the Illuminati or the Draco or any other group that comes to you with a control agenda, it’s inappropriate.  And human beings need to develop their future on their own without interference and without control systems imposed upon them.

Basically, then, life here on Earth, if I understand you correctly, is not native to the planet.  The first settlers were the reptilians, and later we got people from the Lyrean star system—human beings—but basically all of the life here on Earth was from somewhere else?

It was either brought here or created here.  This was really a water-world before colonization began.  Our planet was totally covered in water.  And that’s evident everywhere.  You know, you could go to Kansas, and dig down deep enough, and you’ll find salt water under the ground, because that’s what used to be here covering the entire surface.  So, it wasn’t until that changed that colonization was possible.  And the first ones here were the reptilians.

And so, yes, everything on Earth, all life, was either brought here or generated here artifically.  So, nothing is really natural.

I want to talk about the sun.  Is the sun a fireball, as people think, or does it work differently?  For instance, if you go higher and higher in our atmosphere, it gets colder.  So, our proximity to the sun doesn’t completely determine the heat that a planet gets; is that true?

That’s correct.  It goes by the generation of light.  And it’s the light that reflects off of the planetary surface that causes the heat to occur.  And you’re correct: that’s why the further up you go in our atmosphere, the colder it gets.  But if the sun were really hot, the opposite would be true: it would get hotter as we go up.  Space is freezing cold.  And so, it’s not that the sun is hot: it just generates light.  And then our atmosphere reflects that light against the oceans and against the land mass, and that’s what generates the heat.

(Question about the fact that the human race was bred by other races.)

Everything in creation comes from God-Mind.  Every single thing is from God-Mind.  But humanity was a creation artificially.  And that’s why it says in the Book of Genesis: Let us make man in our image—it’s plural.  And in the Old Testament, all references in Hebrew to God are plural.  There’s no singular mention of God.  It’s a group effort, apparently.  And so, basically, it’s describing that alien groups that created mankind out of genetics [UI].

Stewart, are you saying that we do reincarnate?

Yes, but you know, reincarnation, just like time and space, is an illusion.  Because if you look at the real picture, everything is happening simultaneously, so it’s simply a matter of where you’re focused at any given moment.

What can we do to change things for the positive?

Very good question.  As I mentioned earlier about the victimization mind-pattern of the species, what we can do is do our release work, grow up the child within, do our deprogramming techniques, and basically take our own minds back.  And when we do that individually and collectively, we will actually change everything on our planet for the better, and project out a more positive and beneficial experience for ourselves and for the entire species.  And that’s why I urge everyone to look within.  Look where you are projecting out parts of yourself and perhaps contributing to what we see in the world, and release that from yourselves and change it, so that you project out something that is more beneficial to yourself and others.

Swerdlow, Stewart. (2002).  Blue Blood, True Blood: Conflict and Creation–A Personal Account.  St. Joseph, Michigan:Expansions Publishing Company, Inc.

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