Tony Rodrigues: Thirty years a slave

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In the spring of 1982, when he was nine years old, Tony Rodrigues was abducted by the Illuminati.  He was put into a what was euphemistically called a career return program, and treated as chattel for thirty years.

Rodrigues first taken to an airport in California near China Lake NWC, where between April 1992 and Jan. 1983, he and other children were subjected to an MK-ULTRA torture program called Monarch.  Josef Mengele was known to be at China Lake NWC at one time, and was last seen alive in 1987 (

“I thought you were all going to become Monarch sex slaves,” the doctor told us.  But our group did pass, and we would be used for a much higher purpose.  Apparently we were qualified for the theta class, which meant we were going into psychic service.  From that point forward, I was allowed to sleep, and that was the end of the movies and the torture.

After spending a few weeks on an island in Seattle, Washington, where he was made to participate in a Luciferian child sacrifice, the CIA flew Rodrigues to Peru to work for cocaine smugglers as a psychic.

One time I woke up when they were unloading the cargo at Santa Marta, Colombia.  I remember being at that airport several times.  It was always tense.  We were carrying two tons of cocaine and we were an unregistered aircraft.

By late 1985, when he was thirteen, Rodrigues had become extremely sick from the trance-inducing drugs the CIA was giving him.  A call was made to his owner and his contract was cancelled.  The CIA flew him back to the United States.  He was taken on the underground levitron train to the island in Seattle, where he was made to entertain pedophile elites at parties for nearly three years.

In 1988, when he was sixteen, Rodrigues was sent off-planet for a pilot program to create genetically enhanced slave soldiers.  This program involved the United States military, but the military was clearly serving the German breakaway civilization, a facist society for which crimes against humanity are customary practices.  From the casual way in which Rodrigues was transferred among the Illuminati, the CIA, the U.S. military and the Germans, it’s evident that by the 1980s, the German breakaway civilization controlled Earth.  This is one of the emblems used by their Nacht Waffen, or Dark Fleet:

Nacht Waffen emblem


In his autobiography, Rodrigues recounts his last days on Seattle’s pedophile island and the inhuman way he was taken off the planet:

Then they took me into the back of the van.  They had me lie down and gave me an injection.  That was my last memory of being a permanent resident on Earth during what I would come to learn is called a career return program.

Go Further With Douglas

First in Aviation

Douglas Logo from 1940s

Douglas Aircraft Company and McDonnell Aircraft Corporation were officially merged on April 28, 1967 as the McDonnell Douglas Corporation (MDC).  Rodrigues states that the Douglas logo was embroidered on the seats of spacecraft that took him to the moon in the 1980s.  This means that there were space shuttles to the moon before 1967.

The Air Force flew Rodrigues to the moon for genetic enhancement, and from the moon he was sent to a forward operating base on Mars to combat native Martians.  Though the U.S. military ran the base, it was like a mercenary force for the German corporations that owned Aries Prime, a mostly-human colony.

The pilot program was cancelled after the other children on Rodrigues team were torn to pieces by Martian insectoids; he was the only survivor.  He was then sent to Aries Prime for vocational training.

In 1989, at the age of seventeen, Rodrigues was taken to another German settlement called Ceres Colony Corporation.  He served as a repairman on a Blitzbus ship from 1990-1997, and as a cargo engineer on a merchant ship from 1998-2001.  At one point the Germans loaned him to aliens for another ten years of labor, but they time-regressed him and didn’t count this against his twenty-year indentureship.

In 2001, after thirty years of slavery, Rodrigues was age-regressed and returned to his chldhood home in Michigan, on the same spring night in 1982 on which he had been taken.

Tony Rodrigues, the day after he was returned by the Illuminati


Rodrigues, Tony (2021).  Ceres Colony Cavalier:  A True Account of One Man’s Twenty-Year Abduction.

Whitberg, John (Aug. 28, 2022).  “General Overview of the German Breakaway Colonies”.  Super Soldier Talk –

Jessie Czebotar talks about underground cities

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LIVE with JESSIE CZEBOTAR on Underground Cities: Emerald City, Mars, Valhalla and Ragnarok (October 19, 2022)

Since before her birth, the Brotherhood System designated Jessie Czebotar to be the queen mother of darkness.  She chose instead to follow Christ, and she has become a Christian teacher and a witness against the Luciferians.

In this talk with Aquarius Rising, Jessie discusses four underground cities used by the Luciferians and the Nazi-infiltrated U.S. military.  She talks about the elites’ homes and their entryways to the underground and to other worlds or dimensions.  She also reveals that television personality Oprah Winfrey is a Luciferian high priestess overseeing the Western Quadrant.

The Masonic orders:

1.  The Order of Melchizedek

2.  The Order of the Phoenix

3.  The Order of the Golden Dawn

The world governing council has several names, and two of these are:

The Satanic Council and The Druidic Council

The four Luciferian societies are:

1.  The Society of Jesus (Jesuits) of the Roman Catholic Church

2.  Kaballah

3.  The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormon Church)

4.  The Church of Satan

Four underground Luciferian cities:

Emerald City:  Beneath the Pentagon

Valhalla:  Located in Kansas

Ragnarok:  Located in Alaska

Mars:  Located beneath Area 51 in Nevada

Jessie’s web site:

Jessie’s Rumble channel:  Kingdom LivingTV

Allyson Carter, who escaped from being an elite child sex slave to presidents, celebrities and royals, describes being taken to an underground city through the Getty Museum in Los Angeles, California (beginning at 17 minutes)

Ally Carter with Stew Peters:  “I was sold to Joe Biden multiple times”

Aquarius Rising Africa (features hours of disclosure by Jessie):

Jessie Czebotar interviewed by Sean Stone: The Luciferian System Explained

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Jessie’s web site:

Jessie’s Rumble channel:  Kingdom LivingTV

Aquarius Rising Africa (features hours of disclosure by Jessie):

Earth’s elites have been abducting humans to work off-planet as slaves

Montauk: The Alien Connection (1998)

by Stewart Swerdlow

Next, I was stood up instantaneously.  Wearing only a Sirian robe, I could not see my feet.  I felt elation, like I was on a natural high.  I cannot compare the feeling to anything another can understand without having had the experience himself.  I felt a complete knowing of all things, a connection to all beings; yet, I retained my identity of self.  I followed the Sirian out through the wall to what appeared to be a maroon-colored cave with a high ceiling that seemed to go on for miles.

In front of me, I saw a large group of men.  Most of them were in their twenties, a few were teenagers, and some were older.  Digging in unison with shovels, they moved like automatons.  Large, melon-headed beings watched them work.  Apparently, these were their overseers.  A few four-foot-tall greys moved about.  I saw tunnels and crafts that looked like discs.  Suddenly, all the men stopped and looked up toward a platform.  Loudly, a voice called out: “The emissary from Rigel will speak now!”

At that moment, a five-foot being with round, black eyes appeared on the platform.  His large head was draped with a kind of short curtain around the back of it.  Dressed all in black, his clothing appeared to be a uniform.  Looking ominous, he carried a rod that looked both metallic and crystalline at the same time.

Everyone seemed to understand his mental communication.  Explaining that this group of men had completed their service on Earth and the Martian outpost, he told them that they would now be examined for possible transport to Rigel for experimentation.  Those not used would be eliminated.  The men were then led into the open port of a silver disc.  I noticed that their legs were chained together.  The entire scene appeared to be orchestrated just for me.  ( pp. 77-84)



The Omega Project to bring in the Fourth Reich and the New World Order

George Herbert Walker Bush was a Time-Traveling Nazi Agent

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I learned about Project Omega from James Rink‘s book, Lone Wolf (2021).  Rink is an active-duty super soldier with decades of SSP service.  It’s my understanding that he was the first to interview many SSP veterans. – The Editor

Project Omega

It was at this point (around 2005) that I came across the story of Michael Andrew Pero, who claimed to have been plugged into a Montauk-type consciousness chair.  This chair could open time portals for physical time travel as well as manipulate consciousness energy.  It also allowed those running the project to use him as a genetically enhanced super soldier.

I first learned of him on David Icke’s web site, which exposes conspiracies and the Draco reptilian agenda.  David Icke explains how some of the predatory ET factions have made alliances with governments all over the world.  This conspiracy seeks to consolidate all governments into a global superpower ruled by an elite cabal that receives orders from malevolent ETs.

At the top of the Cabal is Lucifer.  Below him is the Jesuit black pope, who resides in the City of London.  Below him is the white pope of the Vatican, who controls the Roman Catholic Church and the Masonic Order.  Below this network are the Illuminati families and their organizations, which include the Club of Rome, the Trilateral Commission, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Bilderberg Group, the United Nations, NATO, the Federal Reserve system, and so on, right down to your local chamber of commerce and churches.

The Cabal’s goal is to create a New World Order, and the project is code-named Omega.  The head of Project Omega was George Herbert Walker Bush. – James Rink

The Otto Skorzeny Bombshell

Researcher Ken Adachi published a two articles in 2007 which contained the shocking revelations that Prescott and George H.W. Bush were Nazi agents and that Nazis had been infiltrated into the OSS and the CIA.  The first article begins as follows:

In 1998, 29-year-old Eric Berman of Florida began dating a local girl whose ninety-year-old father possessed “the largest hands I’d ever shaken.”  Over time, “Big Ed,” as he was known locally, revealed to the younger man that his real name was Otto Skorzeny, legendary SS (Schutzstaffel) commando of World War II fame, personal bodyguard to Adolf Hitler, and subsequent life-long CIA operative.  But that was just the beginning.

Before he died in 1999, Skorzeny revealed to Berman that President George Herbert Walker Bush was German, and that his real name was George Scherff Jr.  President Bush’s father, Prescott Bush, was really George Scherff Sr., a high-ranking member of the Nazi Party.

Adachi has succinctly summarized Skorzeny’s revelations as follows:

Skorzeny published books about his World War II exploits in varied editions starting in 1950 (My Commando Operations: The Memoirs of Hitler’s Most Daring Commando).

Some of the more explosive highlights of Skorzeny’s revelations to Berman include:

1. The true identity and Nazi-planned subversive mission of George Herbert Walker Bush, 41st President of the United States; alleged to have been brought into America (with Skorzeny as his bodyguard) and covertly adopted by Prescott Bush.  Skorzeny claimed that George H.W. Bush was born George H. Scherff, Jr., and that he was the son of George Scherff, Sr., the German-born assistant to inventor Nikola Tesla.

Young George Scherff allegedly spent his first years in America snooping around Tesla’s lab, helping his father in the 1930’s steal or glean whatever they could of Tesla’s work and transfer it to Germany.  Tesla had casually remarked to a couple named Rey, recently emigrated to the United States, of the mischievous prying nature of a “little monkey” around his lab whom he had dubbed “curious George.”  This character would later become the basis of the children’s book series, “Curious George.”

2. Skorzeny’s role (with Reinhard Gehlen) in the assassination of Nikola Tesla by suffocation on January 6, 1943.  The pair tricked Tesla on January 5 into revealing the full details of his most important discoveries.  After killing him they stole his most valuable inventions, along with the contents of his safe, which were delivered to Hitler.  (James Rink says these included anti-gravity technology, teleportation, scalar weapons and free energy.)

3. The faked April 1945 suicide of Hitler in the Berlin bunker (corroborating the 1948 CIA interrogation of Gestapo Chief Heinrich Mueller, the Nordon Report, and the Russian 1946 Investigative Committee report to Stalin).

4. Skorzeny’s pivotal role in consolidating the intelligence assets of the Nazi Gestapo and the Nazi-infiltrated Office of Strategic Services (OSS) into the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) in 1947, working with George Herbert Walker Bush, Nazi SS spy master Reinhard Gehlen, “Wild Bill” Donovan, and fifth columnist, Allen Foster Dulles.  Skorzeny claimed central responsibility for setting up the Odessa operation to surreptitiously relocate 50,000 (fifty thousand) Nazis into North and South America with CIA complicity and protection.

5. Skorzeny’s claim that Reinhard Gehlen, Josef Mengele, and George H.W. Bush directly participated in JFK’s assassination.

The Curious George character was based on George Herbert Walker Bush, who spied on Tesla for the Nazis.

Were Scherff and Bush the same man?

Notwithstanding Berman’s understanding that George Scherff Sr. and Prescott Bush were two different men, Adachi has discovered a remarkable likeness between the Scherffs, photographed on Christmas in Germany in 1929, and the Bushes, photgraphed on March 7, 1949 (

Top from right to left: Otto Skorzeny, Mrs. George Scherff (wearing eyeglasses), George Scherff Sr., Josef Mengele (holding girl), George Scherff Jr.  (Taken in Germany on Christmas Day, 1929)

George H.W. Bush, Dorothy Walker Bush and Prescott Bush (March 1949)

Comparisons of Scherff/Bush Photos

Prescott Sheldon Bush

The biography of Prescott Sheldon Bush states that he was born in 1895 in Columbus, Ohio, one of five children born to Samuel and Flora Bush.

Bush attended Yale (graduating in 1916), where he was a member of the Masonic Skull and Bones Society.  Lest the significance of this be lost, Stewart Swerdlow alleges he witnessed William F. Buckley, among several other elites, take part in Luciferian rituals (murdering babies and drinking their blood) beneath the Montauk station.  Swerdlow witnessed most of the participants transform into reptilians during these ceremonies (Blue Blood, True Blood).

Prescott Bush, Yale class of 1916

William Averill Harriman, Yale class of 1913

William F. Buckley, another Luciferian, class of 1950

As a junior at Yale, Prescott Bush joined the Connecticut National Guard.  Having attended officers training school, he became a captain in an army artillery unit when the United States entered World War I.

After the war (which ended on 11 Nov. 1918), Bush worked for companies that manufactured rubber flooring, and started one of his own.

In 1921, Bush married Dorothy Walker, whose father went on to head the Wall Street investment firm, W.A. Harriman & Company.  Bush went to work for his fellow bonesman, William Harriman, in 1926, and in 1930, the company merged with the British-American banking firm Brown Brothers.  Bush became a partner in the new company, Brown Brothers Harriman & Co.  This was an investment bank that managed assets and enterprises held by German steel magnate Fritz Thyssen, who became a financier of the Nazi Party.

Dorothy Walker Bush and Prescott Bush

At Brown Brothers Harriman, Prescott Bush managed an asset named Union Banking (UBC).  Through UBC Bush was able to transfer funds, bonds, gold, coal, oil, and steel to Nazi Germany throughout most of WWII.  In 1942 Congress finally forced the firm to stop supporting Germany by passing the Trading With the Enemy Act, but not before Skull and Bones members had become rich.

After the WWII ended, according to Otto Skorzeny, Prescott Bush was instrumental in setting up the country’s intelligence apparatus and filling it with former Nazis from the SS—this suggests a relationship with President Truman, who was an enthusiastic Freemason.

In 1952 Bush was elected to the U.S. Senate for Connecticut (serving from Jan. 1953- Jan. 1963), and he became an advisor to President Eisenhower (Jan. 1953- Jan. 1961).  (

President Eisenhower and Prescott Bush

If it seems impossible that Prescott Bush and George H.W. Bush could have led two lives, remember that after the Philadelphia Experiment in 1943, the NSA possessed time-travel and age-regression capabilities.  George Scherff Sr. could have come to the United States in around 1930 (with the assistance of Alexander Duncan Cameron) to spy on Tesla.  At some point, perhaps when Tesla was murdered in 1943, Scherff Sr. could have been age-regressed and time-regressed and placed with an Illuminati family in Ohio, so that he actually was raised in the United States.  Incidentally, Scherff’s German wife and his American wife do not have to be the same person—Alexander Duncan Cameron had five wives, and he had his son, Edward Cameron, with a wealthy German woman.

My theory about George H.W. Bush is that he was born to Prescott Bush and Dorothy Walker in the United States, and that he was taken back in time to Germany as a teenager to be trained in espionage.  This would explain his presence in the 1929 Scherff Christmas photo, looking more like Dorothy Walker than the blond woman sitting in front of Scherff.  After his training, Bush could have been brought to the United States with his father (in his first life as Scherff) to help him spy on Nikola Tesla.  With time-travel, people can come and go as they please, whenever they please: anything is possible.

George H.W. Bush in Masonic Skull and Bones (1947?)

George H.W. Bush Yale class of 1948

George H.W. Bush and Prescott Bush

Nazi Reichs

Third Reich:  The first Nazi regime under the control of the Schutzstaffel (SS) and Adolf Hitler.  Their goal of purifying the Aryan race was encouraged by an extraterrestrial group known as the Aryan ETs, but the Nazis were also influenced by the Draco reptilians.

Fourth Reich:  Third Reich Nazis embedded in governments and corporations through Masonic, Illuminati and State Department influence.  Most members came from Base 211 in Antarctica and were part of the Project Omega takeover.

Fifth Reich:  Third Reich Nazis who settled in Antarctica and later established colonies in outer space throughout time.  They don’t consider themselves Nazis but compare themselves more to the Teutonic Knight order, which defended Christians during the crusades.  They prefer to be known as Germans and have their own breakaway civilization.

The German Space Program

The origins of the German space program go back to 1918, when members of the Thule Society started to receive communications from extraterrestrials through medium Maria Orsic (aka Orsitsch).  These communications contained instructions on how to build antigravity devices, temporal displacement technology and portal technology.  In the early 1920s, Thule member Dietrich Eckart invited Adolf Hitler to attend a session with Orsic, as Hitler had already been chosen by the Illuminati to be Germany’s leader.  With help from extraterrestrials, the Nazis had by 1936 developed a fleet of flying saucers that included the Rundflugzeug, Vril, Haunebu and Andromedagerat models. – James Rink

It isn’t clear whether the ETs who contacted Orsic are the same as the Aryan ETs who supported the Third Reich.  According to Rink, the Aryan ETs are tall blond-haired, blue-eyed humanoids who are very racist.  Reportedly, high-ranking SS officials such as Heinrich Himmler were in awe of them.

Base 211 – Neuschwabenland

During the 1930s, the Nazis began construction of a base in Queen Maud Land, Antarctica, which was known as Base 211.  In 1938 the first inhabitants settled there, and Germany invaded Poland four months later.

By 1940 the Antarctic base had 300,000 inhabitants, called Neuschwabenlanders, who were provisioned by U-boats.  They used geothermal energy to power their facilities and, later, free-energy technology.

Near the end of the war, the German High Command executed an evacuation plan that allowed thousands of Nazi officials to escape to South America and Antarctica.  General Patton and General Eisenhower were allowed to visit Base 211 and were shocked to see how advanced it was. – James Rink

Operation Highjump

In 1946-1947, President Truman ordered Rear Admiral Richard Byrd to organize a military assault on Base 211.  It was officially called an exploratory expedition, and it included 4,700 men, 13 ships and multiple aircraft.  As most people now know, the fleet was met by flying saucers, probably piloted by ETs, which shot up out of the ocean and destroyed several aircraft and at least one ship.  News reports from Chile mention casualties.  My theory is that this was a setup by Prescott Bush and other Illuminati advisors to pressure the U.S. government to make agreements with small greys.  Allegedly, the greys offered technology that would help the U.S. defend itself against the Nazis.  In reality, however, the Illuminati ruling class of the U.S. were Nazi sympathizers.  Furthermore, the greys, like the Illuminati, were acting on behalf of the Draco Empire.

On January 17, 1947 at 0700 hours, Szehwach said:

I and my shipmates in the pilothouse port side observed for several minutes the bright lights that ascended about 45 degrees into the sky very quickly . . .  We couldn’t identify the lights, because our radar was limited to 250 miles in a straight line.

Over the next several weeks, according to the Soviet report, the UFOs flew close over the U.S. naval flotilla, which fired on the UFOs, which did retaliate with deadly effects. According to Lieutenant John Sayerson, a flying boat pilot:

The thing shot vertically out of the water at tremendous velocity, as though pursued by the devil, and flew between the masts at such a high speed that the radio antenna oscillated back and forth in its turbulence.  An aircraft [Martin flying boat] from the Currituck that took off just a few moments later was struck with an unknown type of ray from the object, and almost instantly crashed into the sea near our vessel. . . . About ten miles away, the torpedo boat Maddox burst into flames and began to sink. . . . Having personally witnessed this attack by the object that flew out of the sea, all I can say is, it was frightening.” (

Project Omega is Born

Between 1945 and 1948, the Nazis began infiltrating all world governments.  They resolved to bring about a Fourth Reich in the United States, and gave this project the code-name of Omega. – James Rink

Russia made a superhuman effort to defeat the fascists in World War II, and 20 million people lost their lives.  The country’s primitive industrial base, as well as its ability to feed its people and heat their homes, were challenged to the limit.  But in spite of Russia’s enormous sacrifices and heroism, the capitalist class lost no time in portraying the U.S.S.R. as an existential threat.  Overnight, it erected a straw-man enemy and started the Cold War, which provided a justification for the domination of weaker countries, the development of increasingly deadly weapons, and the diversion of vast sums of money to underground bases and secret space programs.

A second flying saucer event took place right after Highjump: on July 4, 1947,  alien space craft crashed near Walker Air Force in New Mexico.  Whether or not this was another staged event by Prescott Bush, the Illuminati once again benefited as the government put measures in place to hide all ET-related information from the public.  This secrecy provided an excuse for a black budget, which would soon dwarf the reported budgets of the Pentagon and the State Department.

The National Security Council and The Majestic Twelve

With the excuse that the U.S. had to compete with the Antarctic Nazis but couldn’t inform the public about the ET threat, President Truman in 1947 created the National Security Council and The Majestic Twelve (MJ-12).  These executive orders removed authority over all information and activities related to ETs from the Department of Defense, and, after Truman’s term in office, removed them from the office of the president.

Notice the number of Germans in The Majestic 12 and Dr. Vannevar Bush.

The OSS becomes the CIA

The Office of Strategic Services (OSS) was the intelligence agency of the U.S. military during World War II.  Under the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the OSS coordinated espionage activities behind enemy lines for all branches of the United States Armed Forces.  Other OSS functions included the use of propaganda, subversion, and post-war planning.

Although the OSS was officially disbanded one month after the war ended, intelligence tasks were continued by its successor, the Department of State’s Bureau of Intelligence and Research (INR), and in 1947 by the CIA.

Project Paperclip

With the help of George Herbert Bush, “Wild Bill” Donovan, Allen Dulles, and of course, Otto Skorzeny, elements from the Nazi SS joined the CIA.  Under Project Paperclip the CIA covertly transferred 50,000 Nazi scientists into the American military industrial complex.  These scientists were given new identities and appointed to important research positions.  After the war, money from the black budget allowed them to continue their mind-control research at American military bases, hospitals, and universities. – James Rink

German physicists at Fort Bliss in Texas, c. 1947

Prominent Nazis didn’t only infiltrate the United States, according to Rink:

Former Nazis were not only given important positions in U.S. society, but all over the world.  The Illuminati embedded Antarctic Germans in corporations, elite schools, military contractors, research hospitals, banks and embassies, all of which were required to have at least one senior-level German executive.  Larger corporations could have as many as five to ten Germans on their boards of directors.  Additionally, there had to be one German in the executive branch of every government, and these were answerable to the State Department.

The big military contractors in the United States worked on ET technologies.  These included Rand Corporation, TRW, Philco, Lockheed, General Dynamics, Northrop Grumman Space Technology, NASA JPL, and Boeing.  The NSA and the military made sure that these technologies never benefitted mankind: they were only used to control people and to advance the secret space program.

In the deep underground military bases, Paperclip Nazis and the Cabal would hide in luxurious surroundings.  Money to build these underground facilities at first came from loot stolen from Jewish families, and then from CIA drug trafficking and other sources (e.g., foreign aid), which was known as the black budget.  Tesla weapons and technology recovered from UFOs and alien exchanges would ensure their technological superiority.  Here, in their underground strongholds, they continued their research.

Josef Mengele

Josef Mengele, alias Dr. Green, was called The Angel of Death in the Nazi concentration camps.  The U.S. government downplayed his criminality at the Nuremberg trials.  To confuse investigators about his whereabouts, U.S. officials would report he was in Paraguay or Brazil, or simply that he was dead.  In fact, he was at China Lake Naval Weapons Center in California, where he continued his mind-control experiments. – James Rink


In 1954, the Germans developed technology to selectively block people’s memories, which is known as memory-wiping.  Along with time-travel and age-regression, control over peoples’ memory opened up the possibilty of abducting humans without them remembering it.  Nefarious actors, including the U.S. military and the N.S.A., ended up abducting millions.  They gave abductees complete amnesia, so they had no memory of their previous life.  When they were returned to their normal lives (if they were returned), they had no memory of the abduction, even if they had been in captivity for decades.

With Operation Deep Freeze 1 and 2, the NSA built its own base in Antarctica.  Negotiations over Antarctica took place between the NSA and the Germans between 1955 and 1959.  Eventually they made an agreement, under which the Germans would initially be allowed to abduct 150,000 people of their choosing from all over the world, and thereafter to abduct 55,000 people every year.  According to this agreement, abductees would work for five years, and the Germans would be responsible for housing, feeding, clothing and paying them.  At the end of the five years, the captives would be offered the chance to become German citizens; if they declined, they would have their memories of their enslavement blocked, and they would be age-regressed and time-regressed back to the point of their abduction.

As atrocious as this agreement was, the Germans violated it from the beginning.  Abductees were not paid, and instead of working for five years, they were forced to work 20 years, or even multiples of 20 years, or they were never returned at all. – James Rink

In 1958, President Eisenhower created the National Aeronautics and Space Administration.  It’s leader was a Project Paperclip rocket scientist named Wernher von Braun.  NASA was established in 1958 for two purposes.  The first was to deceive the public by making it appear that space exploration was at a primitive stage; the second was to channel billions into the real space program.  The United States actually had joint space ventures with the Soviet Union, which were called Solar Warden and Radiant Guardian.  France had a secret space program as well.

While von Braun helped the U.S. government pretend that rockets were the only way to launch craft into outer space, his countrymen were busy colonizing the galaxy.

In the 1960s the Antarctic Germans built a second Antarctic base.  Task groups were created to expand out into the solar system, and bases were built on the Ceres planetoid, moons around Saturn, the Kuiper Belt, and the Oort Cloud.  The Germans would even travel back in time 400 years to settle planets all over the Milky Way galaxy.  Over three billion people now live off-world under various German SSP groups, protected by the Nacht Waffen—the Dark Fleet. – James Rink

Nacht Waffen – Dark Fleet

Dark Fleet starships are massive and can be up to 20 miles long.  When they need to build a new battle cruiser, for example, they simply place an order 20 years in the past.  From their perspective, it is completed immediately.  The officers of the Nacht Waffen consider themselves more German than Nazi.  They include Fifth Reich Germans, who consist of German aristocrats, Teutonic Knights and members of the Thule secret society.

Officer-class uniforms were black and gold.  The enlisted men wore black with silver stripes.  Nazi flags and eagles would be displayed on their ceremonial dress, ships and bases.  Soldiers would wear black BDUs while on combat missions.  They would sometimes wear a metallic mesh body armor designed to collect information from the battlefield.  The Dark Fleet emblem below appears on navigation screens of space ships when coordinates are set for Earth.

Nacht Waffen emblem

In the 1960s, the first five-year loaner program came to an end.  Participants were supposed to be age-regressed and time-regressed to the point when they were abducted.  However, the Germans kept 90 percent of the people they had enslaved.  Authorities made false reports that scientists had died.

In the 1970s, the Cabal discovered that the Germans had memory-wipe technology, which allowed for near-100% informational secrecy.  This is the reason so few people ever became aware of the secret space programs.  The Cabal eventually obtained this technology in 1979. – James Rink

Rink writes that the populations of the German colonies had become self-sustainable by the 1970s.

Funding for the Secret Space Programs

1913:  The Federal Reserve was created.

1930:  The Bank for International Settlements (BIS) was founded and given sovereign immunity.

1936:  The Hague Convention expanded the immunities of the BIS.  These immunities were extend to its members, consisting of 63 central banks and the Federal Reserve System, while other immunities extend to “systemically important institutions.”

1945:  The Bretton Woods agreement dictated the assets in the Collateral Accounts were to be managed by the Trillenium Trilateral Tripartite Commission, representing the U.S.A., the United Kingdom and France.  The CIA was tasked with protecting the Collateral Accounts, but quickly began stealing the money.  The TTTC was disbanded in 1995 because it was so corrupt.

1946:  Since 1946, the U.S. has given 76 transnational non-governmental organizations immunities, privileges, and tax exemptions under the BIS umbrella.

1947:  The U.S. was defeated by Nazi Germany in Antarctica.  The surrender agreement with the Nazis requited the U.S. to provide 50,000 slaves to the Nazis each year for its secret space program, for which it would receive some technology.  Nazis were brought into the U.S. through Project Paperclip, and quickly began to take over the O.S.S., and later the C.I.A.  Money from the Collateral Accounts was then channeled off-word to build up the Dark Fleet, and later, other secret projects such as the Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate (ICC) and Solar Warden/Radiant Guardian.  All of this is controlled by the Triumvirate, a group of crime families.

1955:  President Eisenhower put together an American version of the SSP using technology given to the U.S. by the Nazis.  The administration entered into joint ventures with the Nazis in the hopes of spying on them.

James Rink (2021).  Lone Wolf.  Available from Neolgical Technologies –

Ken Adachi (June 2, 2007).  “The Revelations of Otto Skorzeny, Part 1: Martin Bormann: Reichsleiter in Exile & American Retiree”

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Emery Smith, SSP scientist and whistleblower

Emery Smith interview with Jordon Sather, 2018

Hi, I’m Emery Smith; I’m 46 years old. I was in the United States Air Force for 5 -1/2 years, active duty, and Reserve for two years and inactive for another two years. And in and out of different types projects as a civilian after that, because of my clearance and because of the job I held with them and other corporations that were funded by the government.

I joined the military when I was 18 years old, was in the Air Force Auxiliary when I was 13, and also was in Army ROTC before that.  I was in the military for about 5-1/2 years active duty.  I did another 2-1/2 years of Reserve, and then another two years of inactive.  And that’s how I got started with the United States Air Force, and also these compartmentalized projects, moonlighting in the evenings while being active duty, and working for these underground labs that were owned by major corporations that were renting and leasing places on the base to do this type of work.  And a lot of these were, of course, underground facilities.

It was mostly tissue specimen examination, and dissecting and taking parts of specimens.  I’ve done over 3,000 different specimens: not whole bodies, but just different parts of body tissues and whatnot to send for testing—they were testing everything.  I wasn’t really allowed in the early years to know anything about what I was dissecting.  All I know is I had to to go in there, take this part of this tissue, of dissect this nerve, or take this blood sample from this specimen and then send it away for testing.

The technologies that I witnessed in the programs that were suppressed, that are suppressed still to this day, are things like antigravity, zero-point energy, a lot of 3-D holographic imaging, of course there are a lot of devices that were reverse-engineered by these corporations from government-retrieved downed [space] craft and extraterrestrial DNA, along with hybrid DNA from these specimens, which they use to make pharmaceuticals and make cures with, and things like that.  So, there’s always a positive and a negative: they might make a gun with one thing, but the same device is used to kill cancer, in a different wavelength but the same technology.

So, these things are all suppressed.  So, we don’t have to live like we do now.  We could have a lot of abundance as far as medical technologies, the cures for diseases, the abundance of water and food for everyone, and housing, if these technologies were released.  And, of course, energy.  Free energy for everyone, and for all of our devices, so, we wouldn’t have to rely on gas, coal and oil.

I witnessed many different craft in these projects.  I was actually working with the bodies and the craft, because they’re connected.  A lot of the craft are organic-material-consciousness technology, which means only the driver or that race can actually operate the vehicle, due to the frequency of the genetic DNA and the frequency that they’re emitting.  It’s kind of like having a pet or a car that only responds to the owner.  And these types of vehicles are so amazing.  They’re usually made in space through harmonics and frequency.  So, they can actually give life to a craft and infuse it with artificial intelligence, or consciousness, or both, and match it to the driver or the occupants of this vehicle.

These craft had many different shapes.  Of course, there are always the classic spheres, egg shapes, and the disc shapes.  But there are also other craft that are interdimensional, that can change shape; so, they might come in the form of light, and they can manifest and change their atomic structure to become solid.  So, these types of crafts are a little bit more advanced than the crafts that we hear about in popular culture, that you see on TV and whatnot.  These crafts can actually go interdimensional.  They can change shape with all of the occupants not even knowing it’s happening, and then re-form again in different worlds, in different dimensions, and different parts of the universe, immediately.  So, no time elapses, because they have their own atmosphere and they have their own gravity and they have their own little space that they have projected from this craft that keeps them completely encapsulated with it.  And they have already mastered teletransportation and all of these things.  So, the bodies can shrink with the craft in its own living space, and that’s why they can go a million miles an hour and make a right-hand turn: because they don’t feel it, because they are in their own diminsional holographic world, where they have to fall under those scientific laws, such as (the laws) in the 3-D here.  As soon as they make themselves 3-D, they have to survive in the 3-D.  So they have to maybe take a step down if they’re from the 4-D, 5-D, 6-D.

So, it’s really interesting how these craft that we have had for many, many, many years, some have been there for over 30, 40 years, and some craft are very new.  And we get different craft all of the time. Like I said, one of them, like I explained one time, looked like an upside-down (bundt) cake.  And it actually, you could touch it and it felt like a Memory Foam mattress and it had a hollow (center).  This was about 40 or 50 feet in diameter, and it had like a 10-to-25-foot hollow inside to this craft. And the craft was not hollow: it was solid. But for some reason, inside this cylindrical opening was where the beings actually were, and it’s open. But when it activates, a floor appears and it forms.

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But they don’t really use floors; they don’t use chairs—they’re just kind of there. And it’s a very interesting, it’s a different thing. It’s not like a lot of buttons; there’s no steering wheels or cockpit like everyone thinks there is when you walk in these. They’re very seamless, and they give off an energy all of the time. Even when they’ve been captured and taken down for 30 years, they still emit this energy that they’re harvesting from within inner space.

And that’s what they’re trying to figure out now is how to harvest that. A lot of them have figured this out, but there are a lot of corporations that are fighting, actually, for this technology. But we humans, here right now, are way more advanced, a few thousand years, than anyone would think. But that’s what’s being repressed, these types of technology. You know, our taxes around the world, (collected by) the U.S. government, you know they’re charging $100 for a hammer that only costs them $5 to get, so, all this extra money, trillions and trillions of dollars, is going into these black projects to fund them. Along with what they’re doing in space—you know, as far as trading with other humans and extraterrestrials. I’m not familiar with exactly what they are trading, but there is something going on with that. But mostly (the funding) comes from here.

Extraterrestrials don’t really care about gold or money or cash, so when you’re working in the government and in these projects, and the military, everything is done by favors.  And it is a like a favor thing, or an even exchange of something for something.  Like, when I was working with the projects in New Mexico, we stumbled upon something, we couldn’t figure it out, whether it was an extraterrestrial device or a craft, so we would call the other bases.  We would call over in Australia, we would call Italy, we would call England.  We would call all these places and say, “Hey, do you have anything like this that you could help us figure out to get it to work?”  Because we would stumble upon things and we’d have to stop, and then if we can’t figure it out ourselves, we’ll start asking around.  And for that, we have to give them something they don’t know, which we have.  So it’s this exchange and bargaining system of, “Give me a little information and I’ll give you information.”

Overnight, if we were able to get all these technologies together and give them to the public, it would end gas, coal and oil.  Because you prove ETs exist, the first thing the scientists are going to say is, ‘Well, how did they get here?  They didn’t get here on rocket fuel coming from a million light-years away, so, how did they do it?’  Well, they’re making their own energy. They’re getting the energy from the vacuum of space.  It’s unlimited energy.  It’s right here, right now; I could just open it, grab it and use it with the right technology.  That technology being released also affects everything that we do here, such as getting water from the atmosphere—just making it, appearing in your glass, purified water.

(9:35) So, things like that, which, we talk about water and food.  Well, there are a lot of countries on the planet that don’t have a lot of fresh water and food.  Just look at India: all of their wells are completely destroyed from lead and arsenic.  There are 2.5 billion people over there; it’s like a third of the planet, and just in India.  So, these people really need some clean water, because the ground’s completely destroyed.  So, the technologies that come with this could clean that up.  They could clean up the big mess out in the Pacific Ocean, all that garbage floating around, miles and miles and miles.  Fukushima radiation, this type of technology could also clean that up within a couple of days, and transmute all of that negative energy and all of that trash.  Cancers, disease, all that stuff could be cured in just a couple of days with a couple of treatments using frequency and light from some of these projects.

So, life would be a lot easier if we didn’t have to work so much to pay our gas, coal and oil bills, and focus our energies on things we’d like to do, and also expand our consciousness.

The people that are keeping these technologies from us are referred to as The Cabal, Majestic Twelve, the 300 major corporations that run the planet.  These are some of the popular terms people use to define, “Who is actually making me pay taxes, and who is making me pay my electric bill, and the price of gas keeps going up and down, and the pricing of all these negative things that we really don’t need.”  I mean, look at us now.  We’re still— Elon Musk and Space X and NASA are still using rocket-propelled technology that was probably invented by the Chinese to make the first fireworks.  So we’re talking about hundreds of years of the same thing, just trying to improve it, when there’s already anti-gravity.  But they only use it, not for the public, but they use it behind the scenes for the secret space programs, and they keep it from the people of Earth and keep us stunted down here like slaves.

(11:50) I get asked the question all the time: how is humanity going to expose these criminals? And the answer to that is very simple: humanity won’t have to. Gaia, Planet Earth, will do it for us. For example, what’s going on in [unintelligible] right now: huge meltdown, craft everywhere. Craft are starting to stick out of the ice. If it keeps warming, they’ve only got a year left before someone’s going to see a craft a couple of miles long sticking out of the ice. And you know there are a lot of private satellites out there now. I could order one right now today for under a million, just for me with 4K cameras everywhere.

But what I’m getting at is Gaia is going to be the one. It’s not going to be one person.  It’s going to be a collective of many people from around the world, whistleblowers and just people of the light, that are going to come forward and share information and put their foot down when things are going to get rough, and keep standing back up after they get knocked down, and keep moving forward, because that’s the most important thing.  And that’s how everyone becomes a hero, when people speak out and support people that are speaking out for the world.

And once this polar cap melts on both sides a little bit more, and all these civilizations start showing up out of nowhere, the government, and the religious community, are going to have to respond to these new findings.  They’re going to have to respond to the stuff that they found underneath the ice in Antarctica.  They’re going to have to respond to the city that they found under the Giza pyramids.  They’re going to have to respond to all these amazing things—Atlantis off the coast of Cuba.  And here are these amazing stories, but the media keep them hush-hush here.  In other countries it’s a little bit easier to talk about these things, and the media now and then report on it, and then it gets quieted down, and that’s because the media are controlled by the Cabal.  So, once that is severed too, that’s going to help humanity feel safer to step forward and to talk, and more whistleblowers will come out.

But the government, for the most part, and the military—U.S. government and U.S. military—are sick of what’s going on.  You know, 90 percent are just tired of it.  And you know, they have families and they’re sick too.  And, you know, a lot of these things are happening with a lot of extortion, a lot of mind-control devices are being activated, making people do crazy things.  So, this is bad, because it makes us feel like our leaders are not competent.  So, there’s a lot of this going on right now to manipulate us, the normal people down here, separated from the political and the corporations.  And we’re just asking ourselves, What is going on?  We have the cures, we have the energy systems, we have all this, but it’s not being implemented: it’s being hidden, suppressed.

(15:00) The issue that we have right now is that people all around the world are still being (skeptical).  They’re not being open-minded enough to say— And some of them can’t help it; it’s not their fault.  Maybe some are getting mind-controlled, too.

(17:45) I’ve had many memorable extraterrestrial experiences, too many to count.  And there are a few that stuck out in my memories that stayed with me for a long time, and one of them was a visitation from some tall whites in a craft.  And it was the first time I was physically next to these beings and was able to communicate telepathically and get a lot of information downloaded that I needed to embark on this journey, and which helped me tremendously.

As far as the projects, it was always fascinating every year, as you get higher security clearances, to also see technologies, and extraterrestrials working with humans, against their will at one time, and then seeing them becoming a family and being happy that they’re helping us because they feel really sad for us.  So, I think some of the things of working hand-in-hand with extraterrestrials in these underground laboratories and whatnot, and being part of these projects and seeing that, “Wow, they’re kind of just like us; they’re just a little bit more civilized and mature.”  And it was a really big gift for me, because I picked up on a lot of their energy, and a lot of their teachings and educational and scientific stuff, which I was just fascinated with.  And it was very addictive for me to go to work, because I just wanted to know more and more, and where is this going, and why doesn’t anyone know about this?  And it was later on that I figured: If this stuff got out, what a blessing it would be to change the world, and to help all the animals of the world, and clean all the oceans, and to cure my family of cancer, and all these things were just flying through my head.  So, I think, to answer that question, it was just working hand-in-hand with these extraterrestrials, it was a blessing, and also having special moments where you actually get to communicate with an extraterrestrial now and then to upgrade you and also to learn different sciences that didn’t exist here on Planet Earth.

(20:00)  I was working on zero-point energy devices, and getting more into that, and having zero-point energy devices that actually work, and threats started coming in, and I felt threatened enough that if I did not do something, that my life was going to end very abruptly and very quickly, and my past shows that, with the number of family members and friends that I’ve lost in the last ten years and lifetime, that is correlated with this type of thing.  So, I believe that I had to come forward, because I needed to get this information out to the people before it’s time to go.  So, I’m saying, yeah, it’s time to go, but before I go, let me get something documented, and let’s get all the paperwork in and everything I could possibly have, and give it to people like David Wilcock and Gaia TV and other people that are working with me in this fashion, to secure it and to investigate it.  And if something happens to me today, I’m going to be very happy and satisfied to know that I’ve done my duty and I got this out here.  Plus, a lot of my nondisclosure agreements just ended, not all of them, and I felt more comfortable talking about these types of things.  And that was probably one of the main reasons that I’ve just been hanging out in the background listening to pop-culture leaders here, and also the significantly renowned leaders in this field of consciousness, speak and talk and kind of get an idea of what level everyone’s at.

(22:00)  My life has been threatened significantly ever since I started opening labs that have to do with energy, creating energy from the vacuum of space and other types of devices.  And I was a very successful person: I had 21 corporations, I had many patents in my name, I had an unlimited amount of money and funds, and when I started putting my funds and money into these labs, these scientists that were developing all these amazing technologies, that’s when I noticed they started interfering, and my life just started going downhill from there.  And I caught on, but I thought, “Oh, that’s not going to happen to me; I’m doing this the right way.”  And the government told me one time.  They brought me in and they said, “You know, you’ve gotta be careful.”  They said, “You’re protected; we’ve got your back. But you’re not bullet-proof.  So, think about that.”  So, that meant for me, I shouldn’t be on any camera and talking about that stuff, about the energy stuff.

After that, I started losing my companies.  I had a lot of coleagues turn against me because of my beliefs.  A lot of my business partners were upset that I was doing C-CETI work (communication with extraterrestrial intelligence) or in documentaries talking about new technologies, extraterrestrials.  So, real quick, my life in that form–  And just because of who I was, and had been slowly coming forward over many years, and being an informant for David Wilcock for ten years.  And he wanted me way back then, and I was like, “No, this is not the time.”  Plus, people were not ready for it back then.  I needed everyone to get up to my speed.

So, I’m glad Corey Goode is out there talking about this stuff, Greer is still talking about it, Wilcock is still talking about it, all these amazing people that you see at these meetings are talking about the science and the physics behind it, and trying to figure it out, and life experiences, which is important.  And that laid the foundation for me to come along and say, “You guys got it.  You’re all right.  Good.  Now let’s go.  Let’s take it to the next level, and let me give you all my information, and hopefully that will put in those pieces to that puzzle that we’ve all been waiting for, because it’s been hidden for way too long.  And it is driving me crazy to go outside and sit in a car and start it and go anywhere, when I know what’s really out there and what I’ve been involved with, and I’ve flown in these devices.  So, what are we doing?  Why do we have to have underground tunnels with freeways, or these magnetic train systems?  There are other ways to do it that are easier, but we’re still staying with the gasoline.

And I still don’t see the benefit of battery-powered electric cars, because you still need gas, coal or oil to charge that battery.  However, if you have something like a [Pudimi?] system, where one battery charges 50 batteries, that’s different.  So, these are things which make more sense to me, these energetic devices, because any way that you can decrease the use of gas, coal and oil, which is poisoning the planet, it’s poisoning the atmosphere, it’s poisoning us and the animals and the oceans, then they’ll clear up.  It’s going to clear up real quick, this atmosphere, once we stop that.


Another interview:

Alexis Brooks interview of Emery Smith (2019)
“Emery Smith – Portals, Ley lines, Other Worlds & Humanity – What’s REALLY Going On?”

Apollymi Mandylion Super Soldier (2)

Super Soldier Talk with Apollymi – Project Crest, Carbon, Section 13 32-C

Part 2 of an interview with James Rink, Super Soldier Talk

September 15, 2021

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42:00 James:  We’re going to move on from Camp Livingston. After you graduated, I think you said you were sent off world—is that correct?

Apollymi: I was sent to Section 13, specifically 32-C organization [at Area 51].

James:  What is that?

Apollymi:  Just to let everyone know, I do have authorization to talk about Section 13 32-C, in any time-frame back from when I was a kid, all the way up until 2020.  So, Section 13 32-C is a conglomerate of the ICC and a few of the other Earth organizations as well as ET organizations.  They basically come together and work on a whole bunch of stuff.  A lot of them start bleeding into the Star Gate Project (or Project Crest, as it is known by the older generation), off-world, on-world, anything in-between.  We were basically a band of mercenaries, is the best way I can describe it, because we do all sorts of stuff, from rescue missions to spying, sabotage, or anything like that.  Even collecting stuff off of other worlds for information.  So, it really just depends on what our contracts are and what we’re doing.  When I was a kid, it was mainly beyond the battlefield: you have to prove yourself in other fields to get into those areas.  So, if you were more sneaky-sneaky and you could keep your mouth shut, you’re obviously going to be one of the spy [ordnance] rather than just being cannon fodder.  I was mainly cannon-fodder—I like to survive.

(34:10) James:  Is this group connected to the Earth Alliance, or the Earth Defence Force?

Appolymi:  I have no idea, to be honest.  All I know is, back in the day, they have different management ever since President Trump came in.  He changed a lot of things in that government section.  So, our collars came off, we had some rights restored to us, we stopped being treated like slaves.  Before then, the Cabal basically ran the whole thing.  That’s why we were treated so badly.  If you did not pass Section 13’s agenda or anything, they literally sold you off to the space human trade.  You were basically a slave; someone bought you, they got to do whatever they wanted.  And I had full proof of that when I was very unruly, didn’t want to do anything anyone said, had no respect for any of my commanders, and I got my butt shipped off to the Mars base there for the dark Dracos.  And that was a whole new eye-opener.  Shoved in cages; didn’t have anything but the clothes on your back—if you were lucky.

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Daniel Sala:  And you said that things changed for the better in 2016 once Trump got in office; did you hear that from their mouths, like it was his doing?

Apollymi:  No, Trump actually came to Section 13.  Section 13 is literally in Area 51’s general mountain range area.  So, when he became president, he had to come check out everything, and he told us; he was like, “I’m going to make things better for you.”  He started firing everybody, we got new management, the shock collars came off.  We still have our disciplinary devices, which took me awhile to figure out what it was, and it’s actually one of our augments that every SSP has from Section 13.  It’s actually in our pituitary gland.  But the collars came off.  So (the augment) was kind of a little hidden trick.  But we started doing shifts instead of being pulled every night to go do missions.  Our training abilities got better because we weren’t getting forced into a lot of stuff; they weren’t hounding us as much.  And they actually started caring, like, our new med teams, and we even got a psychologist on our team now over there, which is new.  Like, they didn’t give two figs for our psychology of what trauma we were going through.  A lot of things improved and changed for us.  Are we getting a paycheck?  Not that I’m aware of; at least I haven’t received money from anything.  It would be nice, though.  I don’t even want to know the back-pay on that, from five and a half years old up.  But things changed a lot.

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(45:30) James: Were you taken to the area of Mars where they had— There were these mansions underground, but some of them actually went above-ground. But a viewing area where they would— they’d take these kids and work the mines. But they didn’t really need the labor there; they were just working them to exhaust them so that they could use them in rituals for these mansions. Were you in those programs?

46:00 Apollymi: The place that I was on the Mars base, they literally threw me and four other kids from Section 13 in cages, with the collars, shipped us off, and the next thing I know, we ended up waking up on Mars base. The first things I ever had encounters with were literally the Dracos. Not Draconians, Dracos: they had no wings. And they just treated us like shit. Literally. As I said, I body-hop a lot, and that’s because I was utterly destroyed there. After putting me in the room with the holographic spider bullshit, that took me about a week to figure out that thing wasn’t real. Other torturous devices, they would put this tiara-crown on you with these wires coming out and just torture your mind completely and utterly. And then when that didn’t happen . . .

(James puts up a drawing of reptilians)

Some of them look like that. I’d honesty have to say—and I hate to use movie references—for Draconians, the movie, “Jupiter Ascending”—the Dracos in there almost gave me PTSD because it was so lifelike, the resemblance. I mean, now I’m used to dealing with a lot of it, but before it was very triggering.  If you were just pulling something up.

James:  Yeah, I’m going to try to pull that up.

Apollymi:  That is, if you wanted a picture of those guys, but literally they are almost the spitting image.  They come in different colors and varieties and everything, but they are that massive and that built, the Draconians.  The Dracos are a little bit smaller and a little bit thinner, and just as gnarly.

(48:10) James:  So, how long were you in this particular situation, stuck in the cage with the Draco?

Apollymi:  When we first arrived?

James:  Yeah, sure.

Apollymi:  I was at the Mars base for three weeks before they kicked me out and sent me back.  They literally put me there just to try and break me, and I guess it kind of worked in the end.  The last thing they did, there were four or five Dracos in a circle, and they stripped all my clothes off—I was maybe nine, ten years old—and they shoved me in the room and these guys ripped me apart and ate me, alive.  Seriously. This was not mind-control, it wasn’t illusion.  So, I assume they threw me in a tank where I ended up getting a new body at that point in time, because I was out for like two days, and then I woke up in Section 13, in one of the base areas on the floor in a cell.  I didn’t even know how I got there; nothing.  And by that time I had gotten pretty good at feeling the frequencies for the mind-control devices that they were using.  Because a real experience has its own reality, but when you start being able to feel frequencies beyond your own mind, even when you’re being tortured, and you can feel an outside source, that’s how I know I’m being manipulated mentally.  And it did not have that feeling: everything was real.  I actually woke up the next morning with just marks all over my body and my legs when I got ready for school the next morning.  And I ended up wearing a long-sleeved shirt and pants, ‘cause my handler down here would freak out when I’d wake up with abduction marks or anything like that, so I learned how to hide it pretty well.

(50:20) James:  When you were on Mars, or in any of these projects, do you recall every being put in front of a screen with subliminal messages popping up, maybe a picture of a wolf or maybe the queen of England, or anything like that? (Apollymi starts laughing)  What?

Apollymi:  Nothing—just the queen cracks me up, in an agitated kind of way.

James:  Did she participate in these projects?

Apollymi:  I’m not entirely sure, nor am I at liberty to say.  I have my theories on some of them, but, honestly, I have contracts, so I can’t be breaking any of those.

Uh, they only did that when we were entering Section 13 for the first time, and they did it for about two weeks and I got bored of it.  ‘Cause they would have a pen and paper, and they would have us watch these screens, and told us, “If you see anything, write it down.”  And I caught most of it. I could see them, but they didn’t affect me.

(54:15) James:  I’m just going to go ahead and read this comment: “They have all been wiped, those Section 32-C guys, on September 13, 2021.  World government got replaced September 10, completely purged of traitors and spies September 12.  Likewise, 4th dimension Earth Alliance and the physical density Galactic Federation of Worlds got purged of them just earlier today.”  What do you think?

Apollymi:  I don’t know.  Like, I honestly haven’t been on missions in the last month, so that might have something to do with it.  And I know that we were starting to transition into new lines, basically, like new alliances.  So, when Trump came into office, and things changed for us for the better, we were no longer run by the Cabal or anything like that.  Like, we branched off into a different section.  So, as for the other members and stuff, I mean, it could be possible.  I don’t know.  All I know is I still have my augmentation for Section 13, so I don’t know if we all have been debriefed and we’re just on standby, or what’s going on, to be honest.  But I know I haven’t gone on missions in a month and they just kind of stopped.  I don’t know why.  They didn’t tell me anything.  So there might be some truth to that and I just never got word.  I mean, they were erasing our memories when we would go on missions for the last couple of months pretty hard.  So, the only reason why I knew I went is my roommate tells me I’m not in my room when I’m asleep, or my dogs usually act weird when I get brought back from missions, but everything’s been pretty quiet lately.

(Question about whether the Draco had something to do with the Cabal being able to steal the 2020 elections.)

(57:00)  Apollymi: I do go to some of the ET off-world meetings.  Yes, I do go to quite a few of the universal ET meetings; I do have certain positions, apart from being an experiment and everything else.  Literally, Trump was supposed to win the election.  The ET government said it was going to happen.  The ET councils, they all had a vote.  A certain somebody ended up getting into a fight with a certain dark Draco king named Lucifer, and they just were not happy at all.  So, the fact that the elections happened and everything else happened—  ‘Cause we’re all sitting here saying, “Yeah, we finally get a good timeline.  We’re actually moving in the right direction.”  And then all of a sudden it gets hijacked and off to the side.  No, that makes perfect sense (speculation about the Draco stealing the election).  ‘Cause all of us down here were wondering, “What is happening?  The ascension is supposed to happen.”  I say, ascension, and that’s of technology and of human consciousness; it’s both.  ‘Cause you can’t have one without the other.  But all this great stuff was supposed to come to everybody on this planet, and it just didn’t happen, so it makes a lot of sense.

(59:10)  James: Are there any side effects associated with the regeneration tanks?

Apollymi:  With the tanks?

James:  Yeah: at Camp Livingston, when you were in combat scenarios, they would need to put you in tanks.

Apollymi:  Yeah.  Thank God they’ve upgraded to the med-beds; those tanks were horrible.  I never had any side-effects personally, except for needing a shower afterwards.  So, maybe some nausea and vomiting; I mean you do end up getting the stuff out of your lungs with the pink goo—you have to get that stuff out.  I don’t think anyone’s ever gotten pneumonia or anything like that from it.  But I couldn’t even tell you the chemical composition of that stuff.  But as far as I know, no.  I have not had any side-effects.

James:  Do they put you into alien body avatars?

Apollymi:  Yes.  Technically I do get body-swapped quite often, mainly because my soul-signature cannot be contained by certain genetics.  Any ET geneticist knows this.  So, I do body-swap quite a bit just because I do burn them out quite a bit, especially if I use my abilities.  It they’re closer to my genetics normally, then they last a lot longer.  But a lot of us more powerful people usually get into lower genetic bodies so that our powers are a lot more dampened here, just in case the shots don’t work and the collars don’t work and everything else doesn’t work.  It’s the only thing that they can really do.

I have also used avatar bodies for certain missions, especially if its one where we’re not coming back.  It’s not even so much a distance: they will actually use a shard, which is a crystal that is made, and then it has your energy signature in it, they put it into a body, and there’s technology involved, but it downloads your consciousness so you can literally move that avatar as if it was your own pretty easily.  Distance really isn’t a problem with that technology.

And then in Camp Livingston there were some people who ended up having avatars as well just because they couldn’t abduct them at night, or they came from the other side of the world where it’s daytime.  So avatars are used quite readily in many, many different areas.

James:  Did they ever put you in a male body?

Apollymi:  Yeah, but it doesn’t really bother me.

James:  Here’s a question: Do you know if experiences like this are still happening to children, or has that changed recently?  I guess that’s related to Camp Livingston.  Do you think that that place is still active?

(1:02:45)  Apollymi: I don’t know if it’s still active.  I have not been to Camp Livingston ever since boot camp.  I went about a year and a half ago to The Gauntlet, and that is in Colorado. And that is where they put you in a many-tiered underground base and they literally test all of their genetic experiments for fighting, or pretty much anything in general.  But they pit us against (the experiments), and you have a race to the top to survive.  Some people do die, and I’m sure they get put into the tanks.  I know I’ve been messed up a couple of times myself.  But they take the collars off.  They pretty much give you a reverse-suppression shot, which is a wonderful blue liquid, and it boosts your brain activity to 110%.  You get all of your abilities, everything is much clearer, and you literally run that gauntlet.  The first person to make it out, good for you.

(1:04:30)  James:  I had another comment about the alien-body avatars.  Did they ever inject you with something to change your DNA, where you physically shape-shift from human to perhaps a reptilian form?

Apollymi:  Well, when I have my full powers, I have the ability to shape-shift, though I don’t use it very often, because you can get lost in yourself if you have that natural ability.  And it’s not one that I practice very often.  For me, they never really had to do that.

(1:05:30) James:  We’re going to go on to Project Crest.  So, I guess at this point you got rescued from the base on Mars, and is this when you were taken to Project Crest?

Apollymi:  No, I was in Section 13 when I started getting into Project Crest.  They started taking me off to the wayside to go through the ringed portals.  When the ring portals activate, there are different colors. E ach one represents something different: time travel, dimensional travel, and just space travel.  So, if you’re going anywhere across space, it’s usually blue, purple, and then red.  So, each color represents a different thing.  And we were the teams they sent through because they didn’t know what was on the other side.  If you have the ability to take care of yourself, whether you can regenerate really quickly or you have good fighting ability, they usually just shove you through.  And then if you’re fine on the other side, then you just report.  We were basically scouting teams.  They do use it for space travel for fighting sometimes, or we use the little discs, but basically, Project Crest is this huge umbrella.  Anything ET-related, anything paranormal-related, is all under Project Crest.

(1:07:15)  James: So, how long were you with Project Crest?

Apollymi:  I was mostly in Project Crest when I was younger; again, they would throw us through the portals—that’s basically what I did.  So, maybe like four or five years.  Occasionally they’ll say, “Hey, do this mission” and throw us through.  But I haven’t really been into it a whole lot.  We do use the same technology on a couple of missions to travel really quickly from one place to another.

(1:08:10)  James:  Did you actually go through a star gate or were you opening up your own portals?

Apollymi:  I can do both.  What people have to understand is the star gate project is just a wormhole.  Now, that wormhole can do a lot of different things for Project Star Gate.  Usually when you open up a wormhole, either you are time-traveling or you are dimensional-traveling.  It usually only goes in one direction.  With the star gate, because it is an actual device, you can actually have that device do many different things.  So, ours was a circle.  I’m pretty sure there are square ones.  These are different from the star gates that I’m hearing about that are in outer space.

James:  Did you use them with an avatar or in human form?

Apollymi:  Well, I wear a matrix suit.  Normally I have my form, and the suit allows you guys to see this.  When I go through the star gates or when I’m on any missions, I have my suit off, so I pretty much have all my powers restored, depending on the mission, and I have my normal body. So, going through any of those, I would have myself, but occasionally we would have avatars—again, to do side-missions and/or “You’re not coming back.”  If they had a destination where they didn’t know if it was even feasible, or if you were just going to teleport into a pile of goo or a black hole for all they know, you usually send an avatar.  They’re a lot more expendable.  But normally I would go through with my own body.

* * *  June 7, 2022

(15:20) Daniel Sala:  You don’t have to say what you really look like, but can you tell us if it’s very different from what we’re seeing now?

Apollymi:  I look humanoid, with pointy ears.  My skin is exceptionally white.  I have rainbow prismatic colored eyes, my hair is pink, gold and white, and I have wings, a tail and a set of ears on my head.  I am technically a genetic experiment that is a hybrid, that was supposed to be built for war, but I don’t like to listen.

* * *

(1:11:10) James:  And I know they were certainly looking for a lot of children that had abilities to open up portals, because they were interested in going to these other realms, probably trying to contact really negative astral beings to get information.

Apollymi:  Well, they do it for many reasons.  When you’re on the battlefield and you guys can’t get portals up immediately, your technology breaks or whatever, the people who can do portals can take you home.  Or we can misjudge and end up in different time-lines.  So, there are many different reasons to have people with those abilities.  Getting into places is a lot easier, and getting out of places is a lot easier.

James:  Do you recognize any high-ranking SSP personnel you worked with here on Earth?

Apollymi:  I say I’m SSP-related, because many SSP are actual military; they have identification numbers, they’re part of the U.S. military.  I have worked with them, but Section 13 is its own basis line and its own faction.  So, while I have worked with them several times— SSP people are good at their jobs.  We’re just the tanks.  People who were trained for Section 13, like we’re their backup.  And we have our own ranking system in Section 13: I ended up being S-class, which is kind of terrifying.  And that based upon how much damage you can do and how many abilities you have. It goes from D all the way up to S.  And then you have your other classes that are off to the side, which are M and E.  All I know is the E are the people who stay on base, who don’t go out in the field.  They are your clairvoyants, your remote viewers, your telepaths—the ones you were talking about, the relayers.  They never leave base; so they stay there.  That’s E-class.  M-class is—  I have one friend who is an M-class, and we’re still trying to figure out what that means.  It’s not like they tell us anything; I’ve had to get this information over the course of years.  I’m pretty sure that most of those are mutated and not natural abilities, so any genetic mutations I believe is in the M-class.  And then of course you have your ranking system for damage.

So, do I recognize some of the SSP?  That depends.  If I end up going up there and recognizing their energy signature, ‘cause there’s no reason for me to recognize physical form bodies, for obvious reasons, yeah, maybe.  I recognize some of my peers from Camp Livingston and Section 13 at times.  And sometimes I just find them on Facebook.

(1:15:30) James:  What did Trump do specifically that made things better for you and the other super soldiers?

Apollymi:  My understanding is that he was not okay with what the Cabal was doing. And he felt that in order for humanity and Earth to be better and start communicating and be part of the ET community, we needed to start treating people better. Especially the people who are different and who actually put our lives down. Just because we get avatars and we go out and die and everything, it still hurts. You still feel that you are dying and you do die. You just get shoved into something else if you’re a body-hopper like me, or if you’re even an avatar, you still feel all that pain, you still get all that trauma. It’s not like it’s a video game. We still have all the conflict, all the heartache, all of the pain. And he recognized that. So, it’s not like we started getting paychecks or anything, but we literally went from slaves to, “Okay, we’re going to give you actual living conditions. We’re going to take your collars away, and we’re going to give you psychologists. And we’re going to give you actual food and make the conditions better.” Where he actually cares for the soldiers instead of putting us out there like cannon fodder and hoping for the best. He fired so many people on those projects; we got a new director, everything. It was amazing.

(1:17:20) James: Was there a discussion about med-beds for the super soldiers, allowing them to get the healing that they need, maybe get their memories back, and maybe a pension, or even services from the Veterans’ Adminis tration?

Apollymi: Yeah, I knew that we were supposed to get our memories back—if we wanted them. Me, I want all of them, even the painful ones. It makes me who I am. I mean, it was great, but you can’t be strong without dealing with everything like that. But as for a pension and stuff like that, I don’t really know. There were rumors floating around, including some of the ET councils who have interests down here. Bring the med-beds, bring the high technology; it’s time for it to come down here, is what they said. I’m still waiting, just like the rest of you. I’ve been in med-beds: they are nice—even the older generation ones. Not the tanks, but the actual beds that you lie in. They are very nice, and so much better than standard hospital equipment.

(1:21:30) James: What can you tell us about Project Carbon? What happened next after your time?

Apollymi: I don’t know where Project Carbon comes from. I only got this project name because a couple of weeks ago I was strapped to a metal table, and there was a lady in front of me with two officers, and she was listing off projects that either I have been in, or maybe it was a full list of projects. And this one triggered my sleeper agents. There is a number that goes after that, and I am not repeating it, just in case someone is part of this project. I had a really hard time controlling myself. Like, I was very angry and about to rip everything apart in the room. So, as far as I know, it is a sleeper-agent project from some of the information that I got, that is like a mayhem project. Like, there is nothing that is going to be alive around you if this is triggered.

James: There actually is a Project Mayhem; I was in it.

Apollymi: Really?

James: It was one aspect of me. Not me, James Rink—it was one of my alters. So, this a sleeper project for what particular scenario?

Apollymi: For whatever they were training— I don’t even know whose project this is, to be honest. She just said it and I just— I’m glad I was strapped to the table, because I, even astrally, like physically and energetically, you’re strapped to this table and you can’t do anything; they lock you in dimensional space-time. I just wanted to go crazy and slaughter everyone and destroy everything. So, whatever project that was, it wasn’t good. And I know that once that project was activated in me, it caused me to not be on my next mission, because I told them I wasn’t really safe. I ended up injuring a superior officer, because that project was still activated, and I guess he said something that triggered me and went off. I had a whole psychological evaluation on base, and they said, There’s something wrong here; whats’ going on?” So I told them what happened. Again, I have many factions that are involved with me and they don’t like to communicate with each other. So, it took them three days to deprogram me from this project.

James: When you say, ‘deprogram’, did they actually put self-destructive programming in you,

Apollymi: No. They had to go through parts of my subconscious, where they actually tethered everything. I remember one part of my life where I was literally being brainwashed, and when I got the information I thought it was maybe MK-ULTRA Project Mind-Control. And this could be linked to some of those projects—I don’t know. But they were telling me, “Go kill this person. Go kill this person.” And when you don’t do it, they pretty much just rape your brain.

James: Yeah. And I guess in that state of mind, I’m assuming you don’t really have emotion; they tell you, “Go take this person out.” You do it, esentially.

Apollymi: Yeah, it was the guy I always ignored when I was a kid.

James: Oh, you didn’t follow the orders to take—?

Apollymi: No! I am—

James: Did you laugh? Did they tell you to go kill somebody, and you’re like, “Ha ha, whatever.”

Apollymi: Why is a six-year-old being told to go kill the president when I didn’t even know who the president was at six? I never paid attention to that. I was more into, like, recess and playing. And it’s clear as day; I could literally feel the energy of the telepathy: “Go kill the president.” “Who is this person?” And you would get that feeling, that trigger feeling of energy, where it just locks your brain, and you’re like, “I need to go do this.” And I’m sitting there staring at a wall because I don’t even know who I’m trying to go target. So I guess I kind of kept myself uneducated for security reasons. I knew something was wrong, because something was triggering me and I didn’t like it.

James: You said somebody gave you some information about Project Mind-Control and MK-ULTRA

(1:27:10) Apollymi: It wasn’t information: they gave me information on the projects I was in, and these two projects were on that list. I don’t which project it is where they have the tiara on your head and you were strapped into something like an electric chair. And I don’t know if it’s dimensional or astral, but they just mess with your reality, and they put you through all sorts of scenarios. I don’t know if that’s MK-ULTRA. The only thing that occurs to me for mind-control is them literally trying to get me to do what they want, and putting me through scenarios until they got my emotions or my thinking on track with what they wanted.

Most of the stuff that happened was at night; occasionally I would have stuff in school. And as I said, I don’t know what’s with the chair, and it was like a metal band or like a metal tiara that goes over your head with wires coming out of it. And the room is completely dark all of the time, and it’s like an electric chair and you were strapped down in it. And I thought I had escaped that place several times when I was younger, but they just kept putting me back in it. The last time was about two years ago, and I ended up willing myself out of that place in a very destructive manner.

(1:31:25) James: What can you tell us about Project Blue Book Section 3: ET DNA analysis?

Apollymi:  From my understanding, Project Blue Book was one of the things on my list.  Most people think it’s about ET DNA and different ET alien species, but, again, Blue Book is an umbrella with a lot of projects under it.  I am part of Blue Book for the DNA part; I have been worked on by Emery Smith when I was a kid in Section 13.(1)  Section 13 is near Area 51, by the way; it’s not specifically at Area 51, but it is in the generaly vicinity, in another facility.

And they used me for a lot of DNA (work)—clones, breeding, I’ve had eggs removed, everything else.  Just trying to understand my DNA because my DNA is a wild card, I guess you could say.  The dark Dracos, the Aryans, the Shakrell and the ICC conglomerate, the ICC got commissioned to make me for the original program that I was going to be in.  But I didn’t qualify.  I was too expensive to destroy, but didn’t meet the requirements for their original plans for me.  And out of 26 embryos, only myself and one other embryo were even considered functional.  The DNA that they were trying to bind together was highly unstable.

And what they were trying to do was make soldiers to fight for the Cabal on a higher spiritual and energetic level, ’cause they were having problems with all these new species coming in to help this universe.  Some of the Qu’Te, some of the mantis people, and some of the bird people—some of the blue avians, I should say.  And they were having problems defeating these guys because they do vibrate at a higher frequency.  So they were trying to make soldiers for this, and, well, some of us have a little bit more personality than they would like.  That, and I just don’t like working for jerks.  You treat me badly and it’s not going to work out very well for you.

So, because of the different DNA analysis, I ended up being part of that project as well.  And as for the rest of Project Blue Book, Project Crest is under it because it’s ET techology; Project Blue Book also has technology projects.  So, all of the reverse-engineering, all of the ET technology gathering in the places of interest, and everything else like that.  I have had the honor of being taken to Area 51 and tasked with figuring out how some things work.  They try to block your memories a little bit, because you’re not really getting paid for this and some of it is pretty high technology up there.

I’m used to working with crystal technology, which is very hard, for some reason, for humans to understand.  It’s one of the higher ones up there.  Atlantis had it; you’re going to find a lot of technology in Antarctica that had it; a few places in the ocean; any Atlantean bases should have at least some remnants of it.

Comment in the chat:  “Qu’Te is the name of the mantids and Chuk Zuri is the name of the blue avians.”

(1:37:40) James:  Do you recall ever being put in the trip chair?  The trip seat?

Apollymi:  What does the trip seat look like?  Because the only thing I remember is the electric-chair-type seat with the headband.

James:  (Pulls up a drawing of a trip seat)  So, the operator would pull up different memories they wanted from the computer, and it’s all a holographic-type interface, and then sparkles would start appearing all around the room, and all the memories would get wiped at that point.  At that point they could upload new skill-sets, memories, and they put the visor right over your head.

Apollymi:  Well, usually I’m half knocked out when I swap bodies, because I still become very disoriented.  It’s very disorienting to your soul to get into a new body.  I know that they do memory wipes, pretty much like what you’ve described.  And I wouldn’t say false memories: I call them dream overlays, because they’ll overlay what has happened in a kind of a dream, and you can feel the different energy—  Your dreams and mind-altering devices have a different frequency.  So, after seeing that chair and what you’ve described, I may or may not have, but probably not for the reason that that person is describing.  They probably use it to transfer my consciousness and my information.

(1:40:00) James:  Do you want to comment a little bit more about your travels to Area 51?  I guess this was Section 3, or Project Blue Book.  And by the way, blue is a code word to designate anything extraterrestrial.  But do you have any information that you would like to share?

Apollymi:  So, going over there, they’ll usually pick me up when I’m sleeping, for the most part.  And then they’ll take me over there, and then I have maybe a few hours to figure out things.  Usually when my powers are fully activated, I’ll touch something and I can get a general memory of how it functions or how it works. I’m sure there are names for that ability; but it’s also kind of annoying when you’re on a city bus.  So, yes, I have seen ETs; yes, I have seen various ET vehicles.  I’ve actually gotten in the cockpit of a couple of them to figure out how they work, which is a lot of fun, by the way—I’m not going to lie.  Humans think that ETs are all-knowing.  No. Some of them have clunkers, like humans do for cars, where it’s just the minimal technology to get off the ground and to space travel.  You have from that all the way up to really high technology, where it’s almost like osmosis.  And those are the ones that I usually work the best with, just for the neurolinking.  I’ve seen some really cool things: weaponry, medical benefits, vehicles, armor.  So, I can’t really go into too much detail because I do like working in that field.  I may only have a couple of years left of it.

James:  Why do you say that?  Are they going to retire you?

Apollymi:  No, I have what I call an illness, because as soon as my matrix suit comes off, I don’t have it anymore.  I have an illness that is supposed to kill me in a couple of years.  So, my perception of certain things, like the threat of getting killed for revealing information, is a lot different.  I mean, what are they going to do: kill me and put me in a different body?  Ship me to Mars again?  I’ve already been there.  There’s really not much they can do to me that they haven’t already, to be honest.

James:  Well, does Emery Smith remember you?  Have you reached out to him?

Apollymi:  My friend told me he found a web site where they were talking about this pill.  And they were talking about the serums we get shot up with before our missions.  Because we have two serums: we have an orange serum and a blue serum.  The blue serum we usually get injected with.  If we have any nanites or any suppression shots—  Because the suppression shots are chemicals; they do wear off.  I got a lot of those from the Inner Earth beings when I was younger.  It counteracts it and kicks your body into hyper mode.  All of your powers start working at 100% efficiency, your brain calculations, your muscle movements, neural movement, everything—it is like the wonder drug of military.  The orange one is your “Oh, crap” moment.  It is literally what we call beserker juice, because you inject yourself with it, and your receptors for pain, your endurance, everything—it just shuts off.  It shuts off all of your inhibitors, which can make someone pretty deadly, especially when you have abilities.

(1:44:00)  But I did try to reach out to Emery.  I was checking out his web site; I wanted to see what was in this pill, and the more I read, the more memories started coming back.  This pill is like a 2.0 version of what they give us on base.  And I was reading his bio and I did not recognize him until I saw his military photograph from when he was younger.  I was maybe six or seven when he worked on me.  I ended up getting injured in battle, in the training room, and they brought me in and laid me on the table.  And I have seen our members die before.  Even though we have med-beds and we have the things you stick on your neck and everything, stuff happens.  And he just happened to be on base at the time.  And he ended coming in, because, again, my species is very bizarre, very exotic in terms of genetics, because my species should not exist.  The genetics don’t really mix well; there are certain binding agents that are barely holding certain frequecies together.  And he was one of their top people there at the time.  And he and two other people came into the room, and they had to pin me down, and I remember him working on me.  We had a couple of ETs come in to try to calm me down, because I was bleeding out of my leg and my side.  And my regeneration for some reason was not kicking in, so they had to go in and—  He gave me a serum of a couple of things and ended up stitching me together.  He was actually the first human doctor that I had, so it was kind of weird.  But he was very nice.

(1:49:00) James:  What can you tell us about some of your other missions?

Apollymi:  Again, our contracts have changed.  We’re basically mercenaries, though—please don’t judge me.  From helping the SSP on various missions.  We do child trafficking rescue, which is kind of new.  Basically helping on the front lines against the dark Draco forces or any other forces—if there’s fighting in some section, we go over there and we do whatever it is that they tell us to do.  It can be picking up different people, both on-world and off-world.  Sometimes we’re even just people who go and make sure that cargo arrives where it’s supposed to, that nothing happens and nothing gets stolen.

The one thing that I remember very clearly when we were dimensional traveling is the crystal train.  This train is made out of pure crystal; it has several compartments on it.  I don’t know who owns it, but a lot of the Aryans are usually on this—both Nazis and non-Nazis.  And I’ve seen that place load up kids in crates, weapons, supplies, people, soliders, anything, and they go and do whatever.  And there is a little girl who actually is part of that train: she literally is the energy source and the traveling and everything, and she is literally in shackles.  And she has really white translucent purple hair and purple eyes, and she’s got a little horn on her head.  I don’t know what species she is.  She kind of reminded me of a unicorn in human form just because of the little horn.  But she’s literally governing that whole entire train, but she is literally a slave.  And I felt really, really bad for her.  I’ve only talked to her twice but it was a super in-depth memory; and I was like, “I will get you off this train one of these days.”  But that train can literally travel to almost any dimension; it’s insane. And it’s very fast. It can take us to 4th dimension, 5th dimension, 6th dimension, and we can go and do our missions and everything.

(1:52:27)  I’ve been to planets that basically look like they have no atmosphere.  We do fighting pretty much anywhere.  I mean, I’ve fought full-on Draconians.  I’ve fought just about everything under the sun at this point.  [Just because there are certain species in a good faction doesn’t mean all members of that species are good.]

James:  Were you in a cyborg body or an enhanced of some sort, enhanced height, strength?

Apollymi:  No, usually the avatar bodies are our bodies; they’re just clones, and they end up shipping them over there through portals or dimensional gates, or even a star gate if they absolutely need to.  But when you are in a body that is close to your genetics, you’re going to have more control, more of your abilities.  So usually it’s just my real form over there, unless we’re doing information-gathering or something like that and we don’t want people recognizing us.

James:  Would you like to come on again and we can explore some of these missions?

Apollymi:  Yeah, of course!

James:  I’ve also had this question about your Inner Earth contacts.  We can go more into this next time, but why don’t you just give one example.  Is there one individual primarily you’re in contact with, or one group?

Apollymi:  Primarily one group.  They look like the Aryans but they’re not.  My first contact, they were actually one of my first nice contacts.  And it was a blond-haired, blue-eyed lady who ended up picking me up.  And she had three-foot-tall blue ETs.  They had the grey body type but their heads were wider, fuller; they had blue irises and then they had darker blue spots on them.  They were very nice, very hospitable.  They picked me up, did medical scans.  I’m not sure if I have DNA contracts with them, like if they were actually part of the ones who commissioned me or not.  But I have been to Inner Earth physically and astrally several times.  It is very beautiful; I really wanted to go live there.  The views are nicer.  No one would believe what is at the center of your planet.

James:   Is it hollow, with a giant sun?

Apollymi:  They actually showed me the history of how Earth was reconstructed after it ended up getting hit.  Because it was a different planet, got destroyed, and they had to use a lot of technology to bring all the pieces back together.  And there is an apple-shaped hollow area, with tubes that come out of the top and bottom.  And there is an artifical sun: it is not a real plasmic sun, but it does produce the gravitational field, the electrical field, and it is a star gate.  And yes, there is molten magma; it is on the outside of the shielding core for the Inner Earth.  And that has the honeycomb, where there are different ways to get into this area, or Agartha.  And then, of course, you’ve got your magma on the outside and all the plates and everything.  It’s just a huge layered area.

It’s very beautiful, though.  You’ve got your oceans and your water and your own little places of artificial continents.  So, there’s the sun, and then you have your central port around it, and then you have all your vast cities that are actually floating.  And then you have everything that’s, like, on the inside of the dome area, where there are animals and food, and it’s really, really pretty down there.  The energies are a lot better down there: they don’t have to deal with a lot of the anger from our sun.

James:  What do the people down there think of the general surface population?

Apollymi:  They’re not very happy.  They kind of share my outlook on it.  I live up here, too, guys, and even though I’m not human, we could be doing so much better, even with our governments telling us what to do and stuff.  They’re such a small percentage of the population.  And we should be taking better care of the planet, going towards higher technology.  So, they’re not very happy with everything that’s been going on up here.  The fighting, and everyone says that you have to be pure of heart down there, which is not entirely wrong.  They said I was too aggressive to live down there, and I’m honestly not all that aggressive.  But apparently I have a lot to work on.  But the want that, I wouldn’t say dropped emotions, but you have to be very logical.  You know, you’re in a small space—you guys all have to behave with each other.

Contrary to popular belief, there are some dark Draconians who do go down there that are more royal members or higher leaders.  When they are down there, they are not allowed to fight; they are not allowed to do all of the things that everyone doesn’t like them to do.  You have to be perfectly behaved down there.  They do not put up with any shenanigans.  I’ve gotten sent home so many times just for raising my voice at somebody.

But I have been down there.  I ended up getting worked on by a few scientists down there as well because, again, they were trying to figure out my DNA structure.  I ended up having my DNA everywhere—in energy weapons, like my body parts were cloned and used as other medical stuff, and just all sorts of crazy stuff.  I had so many clones running around—that was ridiculous.  Luckily I got that figured out and nullified.

1. In 1990 Emery Smith entered the USAF, stationed at Lackland AFB in San Antonio, Texas. There he was trained as a surgical technician and he went on to work under specialized surgeons around the world. From this he was offered contract work at Sandia National Laboratory and Los Alamos National Laboratory (private corporations), where he worked on alien tissues. He later formed his own medical and biotechnology companies. In 2018 Smith began disclosing his knowledge of the many suppressed technologies that he became aware of in the Secret Space Program. (

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Part one of an interview with James Rink, Super Soldier Talk

Super Soldier Talk with Apollymi – Project Crest, Carbon, Section 13 32-C

September 15, 2021


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James:  Thank you everybody for joining us here today.  This is Supersoldier Talk, I am James Rink, and I have a very exciting show today for you.  Today we have a very special guest: we have Apollymi Mandylion.  Apollymi is a super soldier hybrid created by the Dark Fleet and the Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate (ICC).  She has been part of Project Crest (Star Gate), Project Carbon, and Section 13 32-C.  She’ll also go into Project Ashwet (Children of God), which is an Aryan ET project at Camp Livingston, Louisiana.  She will talk about Secret Space Program missions, Inner Earth experiences, and Project Mind Control, Project MK ULTRA, and Project Blue Book.  Thank you, Apollymi, for joining us here today.

Apollymi:  Thank you for having me.

(3:23) James:  Can you tell us a little bit about yourself?  We could start with this question: When did you become aware you were a super soldier involved in these projects?

Apollymi:  It’s kind of difficult, because when you go through the projects at a very young age, they don’t really give you any information.  They just tell you what to do.  Sometimes with extreme force.  I was between four-and-a-half to five years old when I started entering the projects.  And unfortunately, it wasn’t very nice.  It was not, “Hey, come work with us.”  It’s, “We’re going to abduct you at night and do horrible things to you until you bend to our will.”

(4:05) James:  Do you actually have recall of experiences as a child being taken to facilities and trained?  Why don’t you tell us a little bit about that.

Apollymi:  Well, the first time they ended up coming to me, I started seeing black helicopters in my dreams.  And you would get, like, the sound and the images.  And then they would start manipulating your dreams, knock you out.  You’d start feeling this really heavy electrical sensation, and then I would literally just wake up on base, had no idea where I was at all.  I’m like, “Who are you guys and what are you doing here?”  Like, “Why are you in my bedroom?”

But it was almost like every night that started happening to me, on the dot.  I started realizing, after some observation, that they started coming for me between 1:30 and 2:00 in the morning.  I’d wake up in my bed.  Either my clothes were missing, or just strewn (around).  I’d have bruises and puncture marks on me.  Just very dissociated a lot of the times.  And then later on, when they started throwing us into what I would consider boot camp, which would be Project Ashwet—

When I first went into the projects, it was more of like medical testing: they would put us in scanners, take our blood, tie us down and put a whole bunch of implements on us.  I’ve been in the old version of med-beds, where it’s just a huge container of goo.  And they put a breathing apparatus on you if you go into the orange one, and you don’t need one if you’re in the pink one, and they throw you in there and put sonic frequencies through it.

(6:10) James:  You mean the pink-colored goo?  The orange-colored goo?  Can you give us some information about the difference between those two colors of goos?

Apollymi:  Well, it’s not like they really tell you; you just have to be observant.  The pink one you can breathe through.  It’s very uncomfortable; you feel like you’re drowning for like the first good ten minutes, until your brain catches up from the shock.  But they seem to put us in that one basically for—  Like, if you have a severed arm or anything like that, they put you in the orange one for some reason.  But the pink one is mainly for, like, internal injuries and minor injuries.  If you’re missing a leg or anything else they put you in the orange one.  You have to have a breathing apparatus on, and you’re in that one for quite a long time.  And then, of course, when you get out you have to take a shower afterwards because it’s really funky feeling.  But those are the only differences I could really tell you about.  The sonic waves, the different frequency waves they put through there, are just about the same.  The only thing I can think of is the materials react differently (in response) to the electrical and sonic frequencies they’re putting through it.  I mean, when you walk out from the orange one you have a brand-new leg that’s re-grown.  I don’t know if there’s stem cells or nanotech or whatever in there.

(7:45) James: [unitelligible], typically, which are much smaller biobots: they’re about the size of quarks within the atoms themselves, rather than the codons of the DNA, as compared to nanobots. (

(8:00) James:  You were starting to talk a little bit about Project Ashwet, and its connection with the Aryan ETs and the Children of God at Camp Livingston.  So why don’t you go a little bit more into that, and if med-beds are involved in that, you can share more, too.

(8:25) Apollymi:  Yeah, they have technology that’s a little bit more advanced than the general projects.  Because when we go into the general projects, they test our physical, mental and psychological capabilities.  They also test any powers that we have, and then they separate us into groups based on those.

And then we go to what I call boot camp, which would be the Ashwet Program.  Ashwet apparently means Children of God, and we’ve heard a lot of the Aryans say that quite a few times.  It is basically one of the most brutal places that I have been.  So, when you go over there, you are basically, for lack of a better word, just experiments.  You have no rights.  Some people have avatars: if they can’t physically abduct you, they will put your consciousness into that avatar and you still go through your training, regardless.

They basically make us not use our abilities, where the other projects focus on our abilities.  These guys put us through hell.  We can’t use our abilities, but we’re fighting entities and beings who have their abilities.  You’re still treated like you’re in military boot camp for all intents and purposes, and technically a prison inmate.  There’s rape, molestation.  Like, we’ve seen our members get ripped in half and then just appear the next day, ‘cause they throw them in the tanks.  They break you mentally, physically, emotionally.  They have these stupid collars, that, back in the day, were like 1/2” thick, 1-1/4” wide, and it had a green and a red light on it.  If you had your green light on, you were good!  If you had your red light on, like 10,000 volts straight to your soul.  And I ended up getting my collar shocked a lot, because I did not like following the rules.

(10:50) James:  Where is Camp Livingston?

Apollymi: Camp Livingston is in Louisiana, U.S.A.  When I was a kid we would be transferred from a desert area into— all I remember is the smell of, like, swampland; it was very humid there.  Very few times that we were allowed on the surface—usually when we were escaping—it was very humid.  Most of the time it was dark ‘cause we went there at night.  So, there is a larger underground base there, which is where we ususally resided, along with what was taking place at the MILABS [people abducted by the military] down there as well.

(13:00) James: Do you think this was an alternate reality just outside of time?  Sort of like what they did at Montauk?

Apollymi: Sorry, I don’t know what Montauk is.

(13:20) James:  What is an Aryan ET?

Apollymi:  The Aryan ETs are a species of extraterrestrial that look human.  The could walk around down here and you wouldn’t know the difference, except for their energy signature and their pheromones, because they smell different than humans.  But they are what most people would consider the blond Nordics, although they do have some light-brown people in their culture as well—the blond hair, blue eyes, fair skin.  Some of them, not all of them, actually worked with some of the Nazi forces as well.  They were the ones who came down here and said, “Hey, we can give you power if you try to take over the world.”  But they’re the ones who supplied a lot of the technology to reverse-engineer.  And they actually have quite a lot of power down here on Earth in the shadows.  They’re basically making super soldiers to fight whatever battles that they decide.  It’s not like we ever have a choice in the matter.  For some reason they are a huge part of the ICC (Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate) as well.

(15:10) James:  For how long were you here at this camp?

Apollymi:  Maybe a year, maybe a year and a half that we were over there for basic training.  We had to pass certain standards before we got brought back to the other base permanently.  I stayed longer because I don’t like to conform when people threaten me.  I’ve literally had my head cut off; I’ve been blown up; I’ve had weaponry—both guns and blades—shoved through me at this camp.  You’re literally going up against ETs who have abilities and they shut yours off.  So, we had to learn how to fight without our abilities, and it takes a long time and you have to work around things.

(16:20) James:  When you were taken to this facility, were you abducted through teleportation?

Apollymi: They usually came for me at night.  And usually it started with the black helicopters, but as I went to Camp Livingston, I got stronger.  So, I started to be able to manipulate astrally and mentally, so they had to start dimensional shifting into my room.  You could literally see my bed being pressed in while they held me down and shoved a needle in my neck, and I could taste and feel the burning sensation of liquid going into me.  And this is when I started having a fear of needles out of nowhere.  I didn’t like being held down in any manner.  But no, they came for me dimensionally, knocked me out, and when I woke up I was on base.  Same for when they would take me back.

(17:35) James:  My next question is, what kinds of special abilities or gifts do you have when you’re activated?

Apollymi: Well, they seem to have gotten a lot more complex the older I get and the more experienced I am.  When I first started off as a kid, it was kind of erratic.  I walked through a door when I was younger.  I was here without my suppressive shots.  But I have had physical abilities here: walking thrugh objects—going incorporeal basically, telepathy at random spurts, being extremely empathic, that sort of thing.

When I’m activated, I have no problem walking through walls or other objects, I can heal people pretty quickly—just the general basics of energy manipulation.  A very few times have I ever been able to do the teleportation; I’m still working on the physics of that.  Obviously, telepathy: I can get into people’s heads.

James: Telekinesis?

Apollymi: Yeah.  Psychokinesis is a lot more difficult, just because you have to have a lot of that reaching factor.  But it is doable—it just takes a lot of practice.

(19:40) James:  Do you want to comment about the Elvin side?

Apollymi: I say Elvin just because I have pointy ears.  So, the DNA that I ended up getting spliced with, I have multiple. I  have what most people would consider dragon; also Draconian, Aryan, and two other species most people call Elvin, just because they have pointy ears.  They’re very ability-oriented.

(20:30) James:  I always like to ask the question, how old you are.  Would you mind sharing?

Apollymi:  How old I am is very difficult because I do body-swap, so I kind of die every couple of days.

James:  You have clone bodies?

Apollymi:  Yeah.

* * *  June 7, 2022

(12:25) Daniel Sala:  And you also mentioned that you suspected that you were in a clone body right now. Is that true?

Apollymi: I get shoved into a lot of different bodies.  I am part of a project where they are trying to learn what kind of soul quanta can fit in certain genetic forms, because each DNA has its own limitations as to how much quanta it can be subjected to before it breaks down.  And because I lost my original body, they ended up putting me in this program, so I do end up body-jumping a lot because my quanta is very high, and I just end up breaking things down.  I can usually tell when I start having neurological symptoms at night.  Usually my bodies will last between 12 and 48 hours if it’s a low-grade DNA hybrid.

* * *

James:  Well, what does your birth certificate say?

Apollymi:  My birth certificate says 1985, so I should be 36 years old.

James:  Well, how many years do you think you’ve been in service with the SSP?

Apollymi:  There was a time where I ended up getting suspended for a few years because of the rioting.  But I think that suspension was only like—let’s see: I was about like 12, 13— I only had an eight-year suspension.  So, between the ages of four— I would say about at least 20 years, as far as my conscious knowledge.  They could have been doing stuff with me while I was on suspension and I would have no idea.  But I ended up getting a full mental block of everything after that.  I ended up getting most of my memories back when I was trying to do a past-life regression.  Instead of past lives, it brought all of my SSP stuff back.

* * *  June 7, 2022

(36:30) Daniel Sala: Y ou said you managed to get suspended from the SSP; but does that mean you were inactive, or that you got better memory wipes, because it seems like there’s no escaping the SSP.

Apollymi:  When I was twelve, twelve and a half, I ended up getting the group together in Section 13, because none of us were happy, we were controlled by the Cabal, they were torturing us, barely feeding us, making us run through the dirt, and I got sick of it and I actually incited a riot.  I ended up killing three of the high-ranking members, who had raped me as a child and raped a couple of the other girls as well, and probably even more.  But when they were doing that to me, there were three other girls in the room with me, and they were just being completely brutal.  I had no remorse; I had no problem with completely annihilating them.

* * *

(22:40) James:  Are you still actively getting needle marks and cut marks?

Apollymi: Yes.  On my Facebook page I do show some of my abduction marks and injection marks as well.

James:  Yeah, I also have been getting injection marks as well.  So, yeah, we’re still active and I think they’re wiping our memories.

Apollymi:  Yeah.

James:  I would like to know a little bit more about what is their favorite location to inject you in.  Do they keep coming back to the same place?

Apollymi: Well, I’m still active in a few projects, so it really just depends.  Sometimes I’ll get them in my arms.  Their favorite spot is the back of my legs, like two inches below my butt.  And that’s really annoying, because sometimes it will itch, and I literally thought I was going crazy because I had just started remembering everything and I was getting injected a lot.

25:10 Apollymi:  I guess that I have different factions.  Every one of them is pretty much ET-oriented, not just government-oriented.  They all have their different trademarks for puncture marks, I’m noticing.  It took a long time to figure that out.  Sometimes I can decipher if it’s Section 13; sometimes I can decipher if it’s the Aryans or other factions, based upon the injection marks and the type, like the spacing.

25:40 James:  Well, let’s go back to Project Ashwet at Camp Livingston.  So, we’ve already established that you think you were there for about a year and a half.  I think you said 12 to 13.

Apollymi:  Twelve to thirteen, at least.

James:  What were they grooming you for at Camp Livingston?  You’ve established it was ET combat, but was there anything else you would like to mention?

Apollymi:  Basically just ET combat, if you were taken prisoner and tortured, anything of that scenario.  And trust me, they took great pleasure in the torturing part.  They did not spare any expense at all.  Like I said, I’ve had my limbs ripped off; I’ve been raped and molested in ways that you probably couldn’t even find (on the internet).  Yeah.  So it was not nice.  We were tortured on a daily basis.  They were basically training us to be soldiers, and really more physical-combat-oriented, to be fighting ETs who had abilities.  When we went back to Section 13, that’s when our ability training started pretty heavily.  So you had two different factions training us for kind of the same purposes, but in two different ways.  And they would always say, “Oh, you’re a part of Project Ashwet.  You guys should be honored.  You guys are the Children of God.  You need to be strong.”

(28:00) James:  The handlers who run this facility, do they look human, or were they Nazi?

Apollymi:  Yes.  They definitely had the Nazi uniforms.  We had this one lady, she went by the name, Lilith, and she was the bane of our existence.  She was one of the head people there—not the highest, but she was in charge of our group.  And she did everything possible to rip you apart, mentally, physically and emotionally.  They all looked like blond hair, blue eyes, or they had that light brown hair color with green eyes.  Very, very rarely did we see any small greys or anything like that.  The only time you ever saw that was in the laboratories.  Anything out on base or on top was completely human-looking.

(29:10) James:  How many children do you think were in this facility at one given time?

Apollymi:  I honestly have no idea.  I know there were other projects going on other than our own, going on at the same time.  We all had white prison jump suits with our identification tags, or identification numbers, and that was also on our cells as well.  When we were not doing anything, we were in cells: actual prison cells down there.  The bars had this glowing purple outline, and if you touched them they would shock the ever-living crap out of you and drain your energy.  So there wasn’t really any way for us to get out of it, because that energy field went around the entire cell.  You could try to astral-travel out of it—it didn’t work; our collars were programmed for us not to have our abilities, though a lot of us did figure out how to get out of our collars most of the time.  But it still took great effort.

* * *  June 7, 2022

(34:00) Daniel Sala:  You mentioned that at Camp Livingston you managed to get out your shock collars.  Can you remember how?

Apollymi:  It’s called phasing.  It’s basically where you make yourself incorporeal, which is when you vibrate yourself to another dimension, and it allows you to be ghost-like.  I can only do it for a couple of seconds, especially when I have the shock collar on, because they do suppress our abilities.  So, most of the time when I got out of my gear on base, it was through phasing.

* * *

Apollymi:  The only reason I know it was called Project Ashwet is because I had a meeting with one of the heads of that project at the ICC to talk about my contracts, and he ended up giving me the information.  He told me, “You’re in Project Ashwet,” which meant Children of God, “and you should go talk to Lilith.”  And I asked him, “How do you know this?”  It was a dumb question, obviously, because he was the head of the organization.

* * *  June 7, 2022

(34:45) Daniel Sala:  Also, at Camp Livingston, what was the purpose of them shutting down all your psionic abilities when fighting those ETs?

Apollymi:  I asked them this too, because I did meet up with one of the ICC head organization members, because I had a lot to say and I was trying to buy my DNA contracts—I do have credits off-world.  And I asked him the same question. I said, “Why did you guys do this?”  And he said, “We wanted you to be perfect.  You guys are in the Child of God Project, so we wanted you to be absolutely perfect by being able to fight things, to open up your mind, open up your reality”; which basically translates as, “You need to learn how to adapt to situations you don’t have control of.”  So, they wanted us to find other methods of boosting our abilities, learning how to hack around things for our abilities.  Again, the way I learned how to control my avatars and control my soul-shards was from their training.  They made us think on a completely different level.  And they did not stop until you got it.  I was in the training program a lot longer than most people who I went in with.

* * *

(31:20) James:  In what language were the signs at the facility?

Apollymi:  I was a kid and I didn’t really pay attention.  There was English there, I know that.

James:  But everybody was speaking English primarily on the upper level?

Apollymi:  Even if they weren’t speaking English, our collars are translators. (Those collars have several functions), both in outer space and here.  They’re basically slave collars, which sucks.

32:30 James:  Did this slave collar have a cattle-prod function, where they would electrocute you?

Apollymi:  Yeah, at very high voltages.  In Camp Livingston, as soon as we got there, if you pushed yourself as a threat, they would actually put cranial bombs into you, too.

James:  You mean implants in your temporal lobe?

Apollymi:  And then it will literally go off: you’ll basically have an aneurism and your body will drop down, and then they’ll throw you back into the tank, or they’ll get you in your clone.

33:15  James:  You know, it almost seems as though it’s a Draco-type facility, because it seems like they’re enslaving these people for off-world missions, as you said, grooming them for ET combat.

Apollymi:  Yeah.

James:  So let’s go into the end of the process.  After you finished your training, did you actually graduate and get some kind of purple heart?  Or did they put you in another program?

Apollymi:  They evaluate you, and if you fail, you stay there until you break, or they sell you off, depending on your contracts.  So, I managed to graduate after a year, and then they shipped me back to Section 13.  And then from there, my other contracts—that I didn’t even know about—were put into place, and then I was basically groomed to go on missions—both on-world and in dimensions and in outer space—and pretty much do whatever they tell me to do—sort of.  I’m kind of one of those people that don’t take orders if I don’t really like what’s going on.  I’m kind of the troublemaker, but it’s what keeps me alive sometimes.

James:  Well, usually we find that people that were troublemakers out there are highly targeted here.  Do you feel like that’s the case for you?  I mean, has your life been really difficult, like, you try to move forward and almost everything fails?

(34:45) Apollymi:  Let’s put it this way: I take two steps forward, and I don’t get my legs kicked out from under me—they get chopped off and I have to regrow them.   I literally can’t do anything here, and anyone who has known me for awhile understands this.  Anything: going to school, having a job, having a relationship.

James:  Well, I wanted to mention this because Tucker Carlson and Shannon Bream, who are high up at Fox News, were also really high up in ICC.   So, when we do our service off-world, they promise us they’ll give us cushy jobs to take care of us when we come back.  But that’s if you’re loyal and you do everything you’re told.  Now, the people that don’t do that—I guess a lot of the super soldiers are rebelious, because we’re treated like crap.  So do you feel like they should pay you for the work you did?  I mean, do you want money?  Do you want them to say, “Hey, I’m sorry?”  Or do you maybe want recognition, or something else?

Apollymi:  I literally would love just not to be in human society anymore, to be honest.  No offense to anybody, but I physically, genetically have issues here.  I can barely eat the food here.  But the more genetic stuff that I have, especially swapping bodies and everything.  One moment I’m in a body that’s close to my genetics, and the next I’m in a blank body, which is just a generic body that can house many different types of souls or species or energy types, and they all have different nutritional needs.  I want a meal program that’s built for my species!  That would be great; that would be my first demand.  And the second demand is, you trained me as a soldier: start utilizing me.  I don’t want to just be here at night going on missions.  Just keep me on base, please!  I don’t do anything; I can’t do anything anyway.  Like, I can’t go to the movies or anything like that, so I’m just sit here rotting.

(37:45) James:  Why?  Is it just the empathic abilities, the telepathic— ?

Apollymi: Yeah.  When those abilities start kicking up, it’s really hard to be in society.  People don’t know how to keep their thoughts to themselves, so people are really easy to hack into.  On top of that, the empathy itself is— I’m not even going to go into what is wrong with society.  It’s just very difficult.  Like, even though I was raised on the battlefield and I can watch people die, being through all that trauma, it’s so much of a different world coming back where you have to restrain yourself. You can’t just get mad and punch somebody in the face or use your abilities on someone.  We do have police.  Whether you guys think about it or not, we do have and are monitored on this planet.  So if we do something that is unjustified with our abilities, for those who are targeted like me, we get grounded.  If it wasn’t justified, I get stripped of my powers.  They literally shoot you up with a supression shot, and you can’t really do a whole lot—unless your life’s in danger, and then, of course, the matrix starts taking over for that part.

(39:00) James:  You’ve already confirmed that you were memory-wiped, but it didn’t really hold.

Apollymi:  Well, it held for a number of years.  From the age of twelve to thirteen, to about 25 to 26, I believe was when I started it, I ended up getting wiped.  So, I didn’t remember anything; I was just—  I was an energy user still, going on paths and stuff like that, but I never really thought about—  Like, ETs literally scared me; like, I didn’t want anything to do with them; any talk about UFOs gave me the creeps.  I had that matrix block, where I felt, “You need to go THIS way and get as far away from it as possible.”  And I was doing a past-life regression, and I ended up remembering a lot of the stuff that was happening, but the ETs weren’t involved until later.  And then I lived in a place in Wyoming where almost the entire town had a UFO event, and after that everything came crashing down around me and I started getting recruited again.  It was very, very odd.  It took a couple of months, but it was very bizarre.  And then I’ve been having to relearn everything all over again.

Supersoldier Talk (Sept 15, 2021).  “Super Soldier Talk with Apollymi – Project Crest, Carbon, Section 13 32-C”

Saint Olga 69 (June 7, 2022).  “Apollymi Mandylion: SSP Insider Interview – ICC, Off-world Cultures, Hollow Earth”

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6:00  And they’re kidnapping at least two million Earth humans a year, and prisoners of war in addition to that.

6:20  They’re kidnapping 150,000 Americans, plus everybody else, every year since at least 1959.  That’s a lot of people.  And that’s just for the Germans; there are other programs.  The Russians have a program, the Chinese have a program, the Japanese have a program.  And on top of that, I know at least six factions that are American.  And I believe there is a joint Arabic group.  And they’re all taking people from all over the world.