Aquarius Rising Africa
Hosted by Chantelle Meyburgh and Morné Venter

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Connecting with Jessie Czebotar 001~ Recorded Sept 2020

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Our first chat on this channel is with the inspiring Jessie Czebotar. We couldn’t have wished someone better to join us for our ‘maiden voyage’. Jessie became a Christian at the age of three years old, and not too long after that, she was forced into the Satanic cult and Illuminati by a close family member. She was groomed for the highest position in the illuminati, the Queen Mother of Darkness.

Thanks to her unwavering faith, she never succumbed, and as a small child endured horrors that no one should ever experience. Yet, here she is, telling her tale, and her experiences have proved invaluable as she today is very involved with assisting in clearing out the tunnels where millions of children have been bred, kept and abused in the most horrific ways. She is bringing to light a darkness which this world needs to be aware of, and has been going in since the beginning of time. Since we are in South Africa and Namibia, we naturally have a special interest in how all this affects here. In our first chat with Jessie, we touch on child trafficking in Africa, with a question mark above the Oprah Winfrey Academy for Girls. There have been several scandals relating to sexual misconduct over the years, some of which have been covered up. Is it possible Oprah is not that squeaky clean? Listen in to what Jessie has to say.

Transcript

CHANTELLE: Well, hello, everybody, and a huge big welcome to Jessie is a boat up now this is the first time I’ve actually ever interviewed someone, so I’m hoping my little virgin voyage is going to go wonderfully well. But this is for our YouTube channel, Aquarius Rising, which is where we— These are such changing times that we’re dealing with in our lives at this point, and I think this lockdown for everyone globally has been such a massive wake-up call. I thought I was quite awake and red-pilled until I read until I came across Jessie Czebotar, who is here now.

Jessie is quite a phenomenal woman I’m gonna ask her to to to just give a little bit of an introduction and a background into where she’s come from, and then also you know we’re just gonna take it from there and see where we actually go with this. So, I’m very excited, and I really hope that you guys get as much out of these interviews as what I certainly have. It’s not pretty, it’s not nice, but it is certainly so necessary for us to understand the world we’re living in, where we’re going, and really how to change things for ourselves and for the future, for our kids. And that’s really what I would like to focus on.

So, Jessie, welcome and thank you so, so much for being part of, as I said, my first journey. I couldn’t have wished for someone better and I am so in awe and inspired by your journey, and I would love to share that with our South African and our African audience, as much as what we can. So, maybe I can hand over to you now so you can just give us a little bit of an insight, and where you come from, what you’ve done, and what brought us together.

JESSIE: Yeah. So, I think what kind of brought us together in this current day, I have my degree in hospital chaplaincy. Over the past few years, the focus of that has changed where I’m working more with teams that are working against child trafficking. So, because of my specialty childhood background, which we’ll get into, the Lord really was using a lot of that where I’m able to, you know, help locate where rituals are going to be happening, what time of the year they’re happening at, the locations, the dates, the possible people involved in those areas, and where they’re possibly holding kids for ritual or other, you know— they’re trafficking them. So, that’s kind of how things got started.

(3:30) So, my background is that actually was trained to be the successor for the queen mother of darkness for the Luciferian Brotherhood/Illuminati. So, with that training, you know, it entailed that— I— I’ve talked— I’ve done some videos about how that Luciferian/Illuminati system works. And it’s very much like a business. So, if you think of a business, the queen mothers of darkness, they would be the individuals who were at the very top, who were running and overseeing everything. Part of their job was to choose and select who is going to do what positions, who is suited for different aspects of of the overall work of the system, and to maintain it and keep it running.

CHANTELLE: Wow. And you’ve had quite a journey through that experience. Maybe, if you wouldn’t mind, could you give us just a little bit of background as to how you got into that?

JESSIE: Yeah so, it really began probably around age four and a half. Prior to that, I had no clue that I had relatives in this system at all. My mother had, you know, she grew up, but had had some of the abuse as a child, but they had convinced her that any memories that she had, you know, that she was crazy. So, she grew up pretty broken. She knew there was a lot of abuse at home, and when she was 18 she fled to the military to escape that.

That’s where she met my father, and they married, and then a couple of years later, we had our house pipes froze. And at that point, we moved in with one of my dad’s siblings who was a Christian, and he ended up taking my mom and me to church. And I’ve shared this story several times, but I’ll share it again. I had this amazing Sunday school teacher: her name was Lily. And this woman, without even knowing it, really became one of the most vital people in my life. You know, a lot of people who work with little kids—especially, you know, that nursery age, infant to age two—they will water down things. You know, they’ll water down the Bible stories; they’ll give very basic, you know, Bible songs, and they’ll just really water it down for the kids, make it kid-friendly. But she was not one of those people to do that, you know. She would sit me down on her lap, she’d open up her Bible and she would read straight from scripture to me.

And I can remember, you know, the the book she actually was reading was the Book of John. And my heart would leap, like I knew it was true. And, you know, she would read the story about John the Baptist and how, you know, that he was he was a forerunner. He was telling people, “Get ready, because Jesus is coming,” and I knew that was absolutely true. And so, you know, I’d leave Sunday school and I would go— I would tell everybody, you know. It didn’t matter where we went. If we went to the grocery store, or wherever we went, I was telling everybody, “Get ready; Jesus is coming,” you know?

And so, she really, you know, through reading scripture, and then she taught me a bunch of hymns. Those things, you know, like I said, became vital tools in the little tool belt that I had going into the system. You know, unbeknownst to anybody, a year after that, or I guess actually it was probably like a year and a half after I was done with Sunday school with her, that’s when my occultic training began. We moved in with other relatives, and those individuals were the individuals who were involved and were part of the selection process for bringing me into the occult. And they had observed my spiritual gifts and, you know, began training.

So, you know, with those little tools that I had, you know, that really was what got me through, what helped me cope, what helped me, you know, fight demonic spirits, whatever type of witchcraft they were using, you know? I just had the very basics, I guess, of scripture and bible songs to fight that with.

CHANTELLE: One of the things I really find amazing, after having listened to your story before, as well, is— is that you you so saw that as the framework for where you were going next. I think that is, I think for me, in what I do as well and what I believe, it is completely God already giving you that that opportunity— no, no, I wouldn’t say the opportunity, but the tools, rather, you know, for your soul to go through and carry that through. Because I have— I mean, what— what an amazing journey you’ve had, and— and— and and the fact that you— you— you’re here, you’re alive, and you’re telling your story. I mean, that is amazing.

So, I think forced into the system you were you were pretty much forced into the system i think you said at the age of three, right?

JESSIE: Four and a half.

CHANTELLE: Four and a half, okay. So, then, can you maybe just give us a little bit of info on that, a little bit of what you went through there?

(10:00) JESSIE: Yeah, so, with that, you know, they began testing at age four and a half. And they put— they ended up putting me with another little boy my age who was then being trained to be my protector and assassin through this system. One of the first things that they did was they had us in a kindergarten-type class together, and we were sitting around in a circle, and in the middle they put all these miscellaneous objects. So, you know, it had like a candle, a mirror, a shawl, a raven feather, things like that. All of the objects, you know, were somehow connected to witchcraft. And then they would have each child go up and pick out one of the items, and then you’d put it back down. So, you know, with that they were trying to connect kids and see which type of . . . element you were most connected to; so, the object you picked told them if you were more connected to fire, wind, earth or water. And then they would put those children into a training program with teachers who specialized in that form of witchcraft or magic or divination.

So, with mine it was very interesting, because, you know, they— they knew I could see, hear, and feel in the spirit realm, but at that point they didn’t know the extent to how strong that gift was. And so, you know, I went to pick my item, and to me I could see it clear as day, but it wasn’t until I picked it up that they then saw it as well, and it it was a sword that was just in the spirit realm. So, they had not put that in the circle.

They were quite shocked when I picked it up, and the response was, “What are you doing?” And I was like, “I picked my item.” And they’re like, “What is that?” you know? Like, “Where did that come from?” And, you know, I’m just holding up this sword, and— and then I put it down, and at that point I think, you know, there was a point where the mothers were talking amongst themselves because they were kind of in shock.

And they had made this seem like it was a game, you know? They got everybody excited that, “You’re all going to sit around in the circle, everybody takes their turn, picks their object and puts it back.” And, you know, after my experience, I was sitting there, and I was like, “Boy, this is not a fun game.” Like, “I don’t know what they’re thinking; this is kind of stupid.” And all of a sudden, my—you know, I’m thinking this in my head—and all of a sudden my training partner starts giggling, right? And I looked at him, and without saying anything out loud, I was like, “Can you hear me?” and he’s like, “Yes,” you know? We started laughing. So, that was when we figured out that we could share visions and communicate through the spirit world together. But we were just like, “This is the stupidest game, ever.”

But he— so, he had picked an object and I— I can’t share what that was, but it was really funny, because afterwards, the mothers would, you know, they kept all their stuff in one of the basement rooms in one of the Catholic churches that was our main training center. And so, afterwards, they would put the box back in this locked room. Well, my little training partner was a little klepto, okay? So, I don’t know where he got this skill beforehand, but he pulled out some stuff and he would just stand there, like stand there and watch. Because we’re in this hallway, you know? It’s just this hallway with doors. And he’s like, “Just make sure nobody comes.” And he picked that door lock and he took his item, because he wanted it. So, from that day forward, he kept that item on him.

And right after he had got done and we got the door closed, we were standing in the hallway and heard people coming, and we’re like, “Oh, shoot,” you know? And so, this was like one of our first miracles we experienced, you know? I’m standing against the wall and he’s standing in front of me, you know, ready to to fight off whoever comes down that hallway and finds out that we’ve stolen stuff, right? But, so, the mothers go in there, and they’re like, “Oh, no!” Like, “There’s an item missing!” you know? Because they counted them every time. And so, they start frantically looking and searching, and we’re, like, standing right there in the hallway. Like they didn’t even see us. They kept passing by us and we’re just standing there, and it’s like, “Okay.” And he’s got the item, you know, hidden on him. And he’s so skinny. Like, I don’t know how he hid it on him. Like, he forever had it on him, and they never saw it. And I’d be like, I never figured that out.

CHANTELLE: Wow. Amazing; it’s amazing. That’s certainly— I mean, I really— I mean I— I also remember— I mean, I was listening to that and I had a very good giggling. I still wonder what the item is. . . .

JESSIE: I know, it’s so tempting. One of my first questions when I found out he was still alive, I was like, “Do you still have it? Do you still keep it on you?” The answer was, yes, he does. So, I was like, “Oh, wow!”

(16:00) CHANTELLE: Jessie, that’s amazing. And I have to tell you, when I heard the story of that as well, and— and just for the sake of our viewers, I’ve listened to quite a lot of Jessie’s stuff, which is why I’ve asked her to be part of what we’re doing here. And she has, I’m so happy to say, agreed to be a guest for, I don’t know, however long it takes. Forever, hopefully—you never know.

So, I’m dying to just get into everything right now. I’m so excited to just share with our viewers what you know, your story. But I just want to say, when I first heard what had happened to him after that, when their house burnt down, it was like something in me just knew this boy is still alive. I don’t know why. I was so hoping that that would be, you know, the end of the story for some crazy reason, you know? It’s like watching a movie Jessie, it’s crazy, man! And then when I heard on one of your interviews that he was, I was so relieved and so happy. And anyway, I’m sure you know God really does work in wonderful and mysterious ways, and I really look forward to the outcome of what that could be, you know?—where he is now.

(17:30) Morne and myself, and we do a lot of work for kids. We’ve actually written a kids’ book, which is currently on Amazon; it’s called My Gaia: Handbook for Tomorrow’s Leaders, Healers and Teachers. So, we for the past decade or so have been around Africa; I travel a lot to Zambia, to Namibia and South Africa, where we’ve been running programs and workshops for kids. And we’re busy doing something amazing right now with the book, especially for home schooling; and really just showing teachers, parents, everything, that the foundation for every child is love. When a child is born out of love, I think they already have a 60 percent fighting chance of making a success in the world compared to a child that is not born into love and has the experience of a loving family, etc. So, children is a big thing for me, and Morne as well, and I know that you currently are very much involved with working with the anti-child trafficking, helping with the clearing out of the tunnels in the States right now.

Can you . . . paint a picture for us what is going on there? Because I have some questions around those links, you know, to what’s happening in Africa. So, maybe if you wouldn’t mind, if you can paint a picture for us, what is happening in these tunnels? There’s a lot of celebrities and things involved in this Luciferian cult at the moment, and I’m afraid one name that has come up a lot is Oprah Winfrey. Now, again, we are— I’ve got to be so careful about what I say, because I really don’t want to throw the cat amongst the pigeons by saying this, but I think I feel just certainly strong enough within myself to know that something is amiss there, which is why I want to bring it up with you. And maybe we can just talk about the tunnels, and how the whole system links to some of our celebrities, and then the powerful people in this world. If you can just explain a little bit about that, as to why, I also then want to talk to you about Oprah, for example. So, if you don’t mind giving us some of that info.

JESSIE: So, when I was a child, the tunnels were used for several reasons and they really have will say they they’re kind of in three layers so

CHANTELLE: Sorry to interrupt you: maybe if you can just start by telling us where these tunnels are. Where are they, and where are they linked?

JESSIE: Yeah. So, they are everywhere throughout all the seven continents. A lot of them are ancient tunnels, so the majority of them were built a long time ago—you know, we’re talking centuries ago. So, most areas, you know, if you went into those you would have three layers. You’re gonna have the first tunnel layer, which is the underground system that the city workers would use, that would have like access to the water pipes, different things like the electrical grids that they do underground sometimes, the phone lines, things like that.

And then if you go deeper, the next layer is the layer that connects to the underground military DUMB bases. So, one of the big areas would be, you know, Colorado has NORAD, as well as Telluride, which you know are are pretty huge systems that are built into the Rocky Mountains. NORAD, I think, is one of the largest underground DUMB bases, so I believe it literally is 80 stories deep you know so that’d be like 80 floors. And it can house— I think it’s close to a million people or more.

So, what they would use for these systems, the Illuminati would do a lot of experiments on children or individuals. You know, some of the things that I saw— I mean, we’re starting to get into some of the hard stuff here, so I’ll just give a warning. But, you know, they would do experiments, you know, that would include, you know, grafting animal parts onto kids. So, some of these, they would even do in the womb, so that like when a child was born, they would be born with a pig nose instead of a human nose. They could be born with different body parts, you know, in wrong places, and then they would, you know, do it up as a scientific experiment, research project and they would claim that they were cloning, or, you know that they had bred genes of a a pig and a human. So, there’s a lot of deception going on with these things, you know, basically at its core it’s— it’s really, you know, committing crimes against humanity. You know, there’s kids that are literally born with body parts that are metal, so they’re very, you know, mixed with the androids, things like that.

(23:45) CHANTELLE: Who are the mothers of these kids? Where do these kids come from?

JESSIE: Some of these kids don’t have mothers at all. They— you know, they’re born and bred in the system. So, you know, they could use people who are not their mothers as surrogates, but these kids don’t have— the majority of them don’t have parents.

Otherwise, there are a group of them, you know, that are kids that are taken through the CPS system or the government working system. And, you know, they— they’ll literally take these children from their parents. They will expend all the parents’ money through the court systems as they’re fighting for their children. The dirty judges who are involved in the system will, you know, award custody or adopt out the children to Illuminati families, and from there, you know, they have full control of the child, where they’ll sell them with black [UI] and adoptions to high-level Illuminati families, who then will have them in the boarding schools or, you know, will completely sell them into the system for these experiments or projects, depending on what the child’s worth.

(25:00) Each child that they keep, like, they’ve got two different types of kids. And the first term you’ll have to forgive me, because it’s their term, not mine; but, you know, the first type of child they call their expendables. The expendable children are their assets that— they’re the ones that they’re gonna make the money off of. So, these children, they don’t use their spiritual gifts. It’s not saying they don’t have spiritual gifts, but just, for whatever reason, they choose not to use this child’s spiritual gift or connect them to demonic spirits. They will usually use that child first for for sex trafficking, so they make money selling them for sex. Then, what they offer when they’re done making money off of the child for sex, they will offer that child as a ritual killing, or for harvesting. So, they’ll make money off of the child’s organs, or somebody will pay to ritually kill the child.

Then from there, that person will have an option: if they kill the child, they can choose to turn that child into a diamond. They use high pressurized incinerators for that, and so then they can either keep it as a trophy diamond or they can sell that diamond for even more money. There’s also an option—and, again, high graphic warning here—but they can also keep parts of the child’s skin and make things out of that. So, sometimes, you know, it’s come out that there are certain individuals with red shoes. Those shoes are made out of skin, but there’s other stuff that they can do with it as well. So, that is one of the money options as well.

And then from there, you know, they make the money off of the organs as well, and then— Or I should—You know, most the organs are either harvested and sold, you know, to high-level people who might need organs, or they’re sold for different forms of witchcraft spells or divination.

And then they also— after that they’ll, you know, you’ve got the ashes or remains in the incinerator: a lot of those are sold to our food companies all around the world. It is mixed with flour or other type seasonings products and it’s sold in our food to the American people or people in other countries who are paying for food. So, you’re basically— they’re making lots and lots of money off of each child.

CHANTELLE: . . . They make millions of dollars off one child. . . . Made into a diamond and turned into food? So, you’re saying the child’s ashes then get mixed . . . ?

JESSIE: That’s some of it. They also do other forms, so it could be a lot of the organic foods that have terms like ‘natural seasoning’, ‘natural flavoring’—yeah. Your cereals, your crackers; oatmeal is a huge one, all that grainy flour stuff that comes off or that’s at the bottom of your oatmeal canister. It’s pretty much in everything that the general public consumes. So it goes to fast food restaurants to be mixed into— The part people got to keep in mind is that, you know, this was a high form of witchcraft that, with those ashes— it’s not just that they’re making these ashes and selling them: they have groups of individuals who are casting spells and connecting demonic spirits to these ashes before they sell them. So, basically, every time you consume, at a spiritual level, you’re you know opening yourself up to more and more demonic spirits. So it’s a way for them to get demonic spirits into people’s homes.

(31:00) CHANTELLE: This is incredible, the lengths. Wow. Who would have imagined? I mean, I think this truly is the worst kind of evil that one can imagine, and this all from innocent children. I find that heartbreaking. But who are the people that are sacrificing these kids? Who are the people that are demanding this? I mean, this is obviously a million-dollar industry. Who are the people that can afford this? Who are the people that are wanting this?

JESSIE: Well, I think the demand and the, you know, want for it really stems from Satan and the demonic spirits—especially the high demon generals. But serving them are the high, you know, the elite, or who we would call the elite. These are the individuals who are the Illuminati’s insurance policy. These are the people that they invest in. They will give them fame, fortune, money, anything worldly that they want in order to—

CHANTELLE: Celebrities.

JESSIE: Yeah. Their whole purpose is to keep the system running. At the core of that is that you’ve got these blood-lusty demons, you know, so that’s who they’re really, you know, appeasing or appealing to. We know that, you know, a lot of the Hollywood actors and actresses have just come out. So, you’ve got high businessmen and women, you’ve got world leaders, you’ve got individuals who are involved in the United Nations, the European Union—people who are, you know, leader world leaders are at the core of this.

A lot of people don’t know. You know, I mean, even South Africa is a huge area right now where stuff is going on along the coast. You know, you’ve got all these high-end UN leaders or other individuals who invest and own these super yachts, so they’re traveling from one continent to the other, trafficking children.

(33:30) CHANTELLE: Wow. Are there any names you can give us that you’re at liberty—? I understand that, obviously, you’re very limited to certain things that you can share with us and what you can’t.

JESSIE: You’ve got Harvey Weinstein, Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell—all of those people. The royals: we— we’ve— we’ve brought out some stuff about them and their involvement and some of the governments.

CHANTELLE: The Windsor royals?

JESSIE: Yeah, the Windsor royals.

CHANTELLE: Wow. So, pretty much all the upper-echelon, and pretty much all our big-name celebrities. I wouldn’t say all: I think there must surely be some that are not.

JESSIE: Yeah.

CHANTELLE: With a lot of reading I’ve been doing and everything that I’m hearing says that unless you sign a blood contract with [UI] entrance into that big celebrity music world. So— so, you need to— If you’ve won an award of any type, that’s worth anything in the eyes of the international world, you’ve had a price to pay. Is that— would you say that’s true?

(35:00) JESSIE: Yeah. I would say that’s very true. Everybody who has, you know, the high fame, fortune, even, you know, high-end business people, it’s come with a price.

CHANTELLE: Jessie, on that note . . . the thing that really got me inspired to connect with you to begin with was this thing with the children and the tunnels and our celebrities. And Oprah’s name just won’t go away, as much as I wish it would, you know. She was certainly one of those people, and if you think of what she’s done over the years, you know, it’s shocking that she would be in involved in this. But obviously, we know that— that that these dark energies are so manipulative and so deceiving. And really, it takes a very well trained eye, I think, to spot that.

But, Oprah has a school in South Africa . . . the Oprah Winfrey Academy for Girls in Johannesburg. Now, what concerns me is that there have been several sexual allegations around the school over the years. And we’ve done a little bit of research, and I have to say, Morne actually did this. On the normal search engines, you don’t find much, but when you start looking at the ones—the other ones—I don’t even know what you call them, the ones that are not normal—we find we find quite a bit. So, what has been said is that in 2007 there was a scandal involving 14 girls, and the matron was accused of sexually violating . . . 14 of the girls there. She was found innocent, because, apparently, a lot of the girls’ stories couldn’t corroborate each other’s as the court case was going on. And then the matron was fired, but Oprah settled out of court with her. She had the defamation case against Oprah, then Oprah settled out of court with her.

And a few years later, in 2009, there were three girls of— I think there were three girls who were accused of sexually harassing a whole lot of other girls in the school. I don’t think anything much came of that. Then there was a body, a dead body of a baby found in a 17-year-old student’s backpack. Now, again, that is very covered up; one doesn’t know what happened about that. . . . And then there was another cover-up, when there were 23 allegations brought against four teachers within a six-month period at the school. And after a three-month investigation, apparently only 13 charges were filed. And Oprah has been accused of covering up, paying off cops, bribing people.

So, that concerns me, I have to say, especially in light of the fact that this is a school that she has hand-picked these girls. It’s for girls only. And as I said, these girls are hand-picked. Now, also having listened to quite a bit of of you and how this works, and, you know, how the kids are chosen . . . this has made me think about: did she hand-pick these girls for a specific reason? What can be happening? Were there tunnels to South Africa—underground tunnels to South Africa?

JESSIE: Yeah.

(39:30) CHANTELLE: These are a million questions in my head, and I’m sure that you probably can’t give me answers, but I would really appreciate your take on what’s going on. And obviously, you have a lot of experience, as I said, working in the tunnel system right now with the governments, as far as I know, and doing a lot of great things there.

JESSIE: Yeah, well, I would like to bring out more of, you know, just like your country alone. Your question about why would she hand-pick these select, you know, number of girls. What are some of the big things in South Africa that would make her choose or select certain individuals?

CHANTELLE: Absolutely,

(40:00) JESSIE: Yeah. We know that, as we talked a little bit off-camera, that it’s a high area of witchcraft. And I think that that’s behind her selection of a lot of these girls, is that, you know, they come from generational lines of witchcraft. I know in my world, that was something that was very significant, you know? We were bred through generations and taught certain things, certain forms of witchcraft or divination based on our bloodline. Would you say that’s true of South Africa?

CHANTELLE: . . . I’ll be very honest: I have not researched or investigated that at all, yet. But I’m sure that, because Africa is really a high-witchcraft area, and there’s a lot of dark magic that does go on here—I know this because I’ve worked with police in the past with with this sort of thing going on, children disappearing and finding dismembered body parts and stuff all over—so there’s definitely— and this is common common practice here. And it’s common practice that that kids and things are involved in rituals and stuff. I mean, if she has been able to identify certain high-witchcraft families in Africa, for example, and they have offspring, would it be possible that she would be choosing some of these girls to be part of her academy so that she could further an agenda?

(42:00) JESSIE: Yeah, I definitely think that’s the . . . part of the big question. And then, you know, with that, I know in my experience a lot of those girls that, you know, they do choose or select who come from those families, they have underground breeding programs. So, you know, the Catholic Church that I did the majority of my training at in Chicago was one of those breeding programs. So, you know—

CHANTELLE: Catholic Church?

JESSIE: Yeah, they had— Go ahead.

CHANTELLE: No, no—I was just— I’m just, again, questioning the Catholic Church involved in breeding programs and stuff like that. So, what you’re saying is the Catholic Church is pretty much involved in this, too?

JESSIE: Yeah. The high-level Jesuits— Yeah, we’ll have to make that a whole other discussion. They definitely are.

(43:00) Yeah. So, they had the underground breeding program, where they would select girls. You know, they would be— There were two types of girls: either they were, you know, kind of in a boarding-school-like program where they were there all year round. They would impregnate them at the beginning; before the end of the year, they would have a baby they would either ritually sacrifice, or— or that maybe would be sold for harvesting or consumption. So, you know, at the end of the year, the girls would go home to their parents; nobody knew any better. Other ones, you know, they would use, and, you know, would marry off sometimes, or raise them up as— as individuals who would be recruiters who would lure other girls to come to the school. Some of them, you know, were born literally— were— were babies that were born to somebody in the breeder program. They were born without a birth certificate, never got one, nobody ever documented their existence. So, they’ve got individuals who are unknowns, who are part of these breeder programs. Their sole purpose is to continuously have children until they die, and, you know, nobody knows they’re even there, so—

CHANTELLE: And these children have no birth certificate, no death certificate. They’re just—

JESSIE: Correct.

CHANTELLE: —pushed through the system.

JESSIE: Yeah.

CHANTELLE: So, the recorded abductions and missing kids is really just those with birth certificates, right?

JESSIE: Yeah. And and those are connected, too. Sometimes they do, you know, kidnap children from families that they decide they want for these breeder programs or that they want to be part of the system. We had over 800,000 in the United States last year alone that went missing through the CPS system. And child protective services is the system that’s supposed to be protecting children, children supposedly that come out of very dysfunctional or unhealthy families, you know, the system’s job is to take those children, put them into foster care, put them in good homes where they will be safe. But we’re finding out that, you know, in that system over 800,000 last year went missing. So, it’s like, where are those kids? What happened to them? The system has no accountability, no documentation, no explanation for where did America’s children go? And you know, we have tied it to other countries: this is happening worldwide.

(46:00) CHANTELLE: I think, since hearing your explanation on how much money someone can make off one child, there’s not a question where they’re going—that’s pretty much where they’re going. So, for me it really is very interesting about Oprah and Africa and her interesting goals. And I think many of us are aware of the whole pizzagate thing, with these elites and powerful people, and their code-name for children is pizza. So, she made some comment—I’m not quite sure exactly where, again—where she says, “African children make the best pizza.” And she’s apparently started her own pizza company in America with a cauliflower pizza base, or something like that. So there’s, you know, all these things with pizza.

And again, if we don’t know what we’re looking for, it seems so innocent. For me, you know, the way I the way I see it, where there’s smoke, there’s fire. And my concern at this point is her involvement with Africa, and South Africa, especially, and her school, and the sexual allegations going on there, and knowing now that Oprah is really not who she has pretended to be all these years. Did you say there are tunnels that connect to Africa as well? Is it possible they could— the kids could be trafficked through the tunnels from Africa all the way to the States or other countries?

(48:00) JESSIE: Yeah, specifically Australia. There is a line, you know, where they’re using— some of it’s underwater. So, if you look into the Terra-Mar project, you know, they’re literally trafficking these children, you know, from New Zealand, Australia, up through South Africa, over to the UK, to the United States. You know, most these kids, when they get kidnapped or stolen from one country, you know, they’ll take them to another country, and the child has no idea where they’re at, they don’t speak any of those languages, they have nobody to turn to to ask for help if they were to try to get out. Some of— well, we’ll just say there are some beliefs that that some of the embassies are involved, as well as, you know, the military and governments of these different countries. There’s been some allegations that they’re using disasters, like the hurricanes, or earthquakes, the tsunamis—that they’ll then send in groups right after those things happen, and they’ll claim that there were so many deaths. But in fact what they’re doing is coming in, taking the kids whose parents may have died, or they may have killed those parents, claiming that their deaths happened in in the natural disaster. And then it gives them access to these children, and they move them out of the place where they were, and claim that they’re, you know, they’re helping those children.

(50:00) CHANTELLE: Wow. I mean, every time I hear something like this I’m just more amazed at the levels that— that— that these kids are being used—it’s insane to me. Children, I mean, our most innocent precious— wow.

JESSIE: I mean, think of how many of those big natural disasters, where you’ve seen a lot of these Hollywood stars or prominent people really step in and claim that they’re helping, you know, right after those disasters.

CHANTELLE: Yes! Yes!

JESSIE: You know, Oprah’s been one, too, where—

CHANTELLE: All the time!

JESSIE: And they claim that they’re helping and doing cleanup and spending money, and, you know, you— you’ve got to ask what are they really investing in? What— what is their agenda?

CHANTELLE: Well, this is exactly what I’m doing, and— and, quite frankly, I don’t have one single answer. But I truly hope that just the fact that we are questioning this and bringing some light onto this topic will bring some light and hopefully illuminate, since you’ve got a beautiful website called Illuminate the Darkness.

JESSIE: Yeah.

CHANTELLE: So, just to Illuminate what’s happening. I, for one, will certainly do a little bit of investigation from our side, go further, and just to see if there’s anything else. And let’s pray that this will open up something where we get some light on that topic, on that subject about these girls. Because as we know, Africa is a rife market for child trafficking; I mean, there’s just so much of it going around. It’s— it’s very sad for me. And sex trafficking as well, you know, the teenaged girls; a lot of the the foreign girls come here, Russians, things like that. There’s a very big connection there as well. But as far as we concerned, you know, I would really like just to shed some light on current situations, and who knows what can grow from this?

Jessie, I think I’m going to leave it there for us tonight. And Morne, I don’t know is there anything you would like to pose to Jessie, or maybe say to her before we before we sign off.

MORNE: Yeah, no, just— just thank you. I appreciate your story and being brave enough, you know? That’s really what the world needs right now.

CHANTELLE: Braveheart; this is a true little Braveheart. That’s awesome. And I look forward to sharing more of your story as we go along. I know it’s probably a little bit cryptic, maybe, for some people right now, but Jessie really has a beautiful story, and literally has been to hell and back, and has never wavered.

I think more than anything it’s— it’s about connecting in the power, in the essence of love, and seeing where we can go with this. As I said, my dream is to get these stories and this awareness out on the African continent.

JESSIE: Yeah.

CHANTELLE: Not just South Africa—far and wide. Because there is just so many horrors that go on—untold, you know, untold horrors that occur—and the fact that I believe Oprah might be involved just incenses me, you know? We have enough of our own horrors going on here as it is, you know? Just like, “No, not you as well,” you know? So, I say, thank you thank you, thank you so much for being with us this evening. . . . And i don’t know if there’s anything else that you would like to finish off with. Maybe you can pray for us.

JESSIE: Yeah. Let’s do that.

MORNE: That’d be wonderful.

JESSIE: Heavenly Father, thank you for this time together. And I thank you that you love every individual so much, especially the little children, that you made a promise a long time ago to me, in the midst of that darkness, that you would work to get them out, and that you would work to bring these children, who are having to suffer day in and day out, out of that darkness. I thank you that you hear their voices, you hear their cries, even those, Lord, who have no name, no birth certificate—they’ve been hidden within the system Lord. Your eyes see them, and you have not forgotten them, and you will work to get them out.

And so I thank you that you are raising up individuals who are able to take action, who are able to find these children where they’re at, and who are going in there to get them out. I thank you for the military, Lord, across all the nations who are— who are good men and women, who are working to accomplish these rescues. We ask for their protection, Lord, and we’d say you we just trust all these things into your hands.

And I thank you for this talk show, that you were giving me yet another place to be heard, another place to share about the wickedness going on in this world. And I ask that you would bless it that it would go far and wide, and that you would bring many people to help us in this fight to save the children of our world. In your name we pray, Jesus. Amen.

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First Jessie Czebotar interview (Sept. 2020)